Shore Pine interesting challenge.

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This collected shore pine has reached the point where the roots have adapted fairly well and the surviving foliage apparent. This was one that took several years to stabilize and get to this point. I recently acquired the tree from a fellow collector that did all the hard work initially to help this tree survive collection.
I thought I would share a few pictures for those who would like the mental exercise of figuring out how they would start! Included are seven photos for consideration. First the four sides and then three shots with a bit different planting angle and view point.
 

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This tree changes so much at each of the different fronts and planting angles! It might help to see a 10 second video of it slowly rotating.

But from these shots you posted, my favorite is side 3 and working on building the apex off to the right (beyond the right edge of the pot). From this angle I get the feeling of a pine on the cliffside reaching out over the cliff to get a little more light. I like it!
 

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Fantastic material, Frank. That's got some great movement on it. While I'm not going to make any styling suggestions, I do like picture three as a possible front. It's difficult to tell from the 2D pictures though, the apex may be leaning away from the viewer in this view. Nonetheless, this tree has lots of terrific possibilities and could potentially have more than one front. Congratulations!

Cory
 

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Fantastic material, Frank. That's got some great movement on it. While I'm not going to make any styling suggestions, I do like picture three as a possible front. It's difficult to tell from the 2D pictures though, the apex may be leaning away from the viewer in this view. Nonetheless, this tree has lots of terrific possibilities and could potentially have more than one front. Congratulations!

Cory
Thanks, side three has the base and main trunk moving directly away from the viewer, the upper trunk creates the interest in that view. One of the reasons I am considering crunching the upper part of the trunk in a tighter angle closer to the base. This would allow use of the natural deadwood feature exposed in elev two and create a more upright transition! It would also position the jinned branches to become part of the front left composition.side three.jpegelev two.jpegelev three.jpeg
 
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I 1st came to that conclusion scanning across the thumbnails and thought that looked best if
the change in planting angle did not face too much of the dead wood downwards.
The expanded image of it satisfies that curiosity. Looks great!
EDIT: It also exposes the curvature of the low trunk better too rather than on a horizontal plane to the back :)
 

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3 as a cascade (which would require removing the straight jin, I suppose).
 

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Vote for #5😁.
I assume that is secret code for elev one :cool:
If so, this view makes the most of the base, orientation to viewer and positioning of the upper part of the tree. Two decisions remain with the jin lower left and the large upper jin pointing back in this composition.
Bending the upper trunk portion closer to the lower at the first natural bend would reposition the top and upper jin for better composition while retaining the front with the natural shari. Major bend with a large size Bonsai Jack but very doable!
Could be a contender!
 

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Personally I like Side 1. I think it shows the trunk movement off the best. It doesn't show the shari, but the jinn is in perfect placement in the background. Just my thoughts. Nice tree whichever way you go.
 

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Personally I like Side 1. I think it shows the trunk movement off the best. It doesn't show the shari, but the jinn is in perfect placement in the background. Just my thoughts. Nice tree whichever way you go.
That would be the backside of elev three. With a more upright planting angle it has some very nice potential to show off both Jins, trunk movement and canopy balance. Also, has the advantage of the trunk welcoming the viewer instead of going away! I can see that as a possibility. Only drawback is the natural shari to the back. However the tree has enough interest that perhaps the shari does not have to be the focus.
 

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That would be the backside of elev three. With a more upright planting angle it has some very nice potential to show off both Jins, trunk movement and canopy balance. Also, has the advantage of the trunk welcoming the viewer instead of going away! I can see that as a possibility. Only drawback is the natural shari to the back. However the tree has enough interest that perhaps the shari does not have to be the focus.
I was wondering about the training pot you have it in. Do you know the manufacturer name and the product name? I'm looking for something like that but having a hard time finding it. Thanks.
 

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I was wondering about the training pot you have it in. Do you know the manufacturer name and the product name? I'm looking for something like that but having a hard time finding it. Thanks.
When I acquired the tree it was in this pot and I plan to switch out to an Anderson flat in march! It appears to be the type used for large hanging baskets in commercial nurseries. If it helps the diameter is approximately 18 inches. and the depth is approximately six inches!
 

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When I acquired the tree it was in this pot and I plan to switch out to an Anderson flat in march! It appears to be the type used for large hanging baskets in commercial nurseries. If it helps the diameter is approximately 18 inches. and the depth is approximately six inches!
Appreciated. Thanks :)
 

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