ChrisV
Shohin
I restyled a small chameacyparis made it look as natural as possible.
Small chameacyparis
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woodguy
Mame
Nice tree! Has an elegant look. The Jin seems a bit pointy though.
jk_lewis
Masterpiece
Yes. Nice job. The jin does need some "naturalizing."
ChrisV
Shohin
Thanks! I always first let my jins unprotected for a couple of months sometimes a season then I shape them if needed.
Vance Wood
Lord Mugo
Very nice job. We have been having a discussion about foliage pads that has gone this way and that with a lot of blah blah this and blah blah that. You have done something with the foliage pads on this tree that had not been discussed as yet. You have laid them out flat which is exactly the way they should be on a tree like a Chameachyparis. Most excellent job.
ChrisV
Shohin
Thanks Vance, The reason I laid them out flat is because it's closest to nature. On the dutch forum we had a discussion about more bonsai nowadays looking more manmade an artificial than they used to.
Everything should look perfect and lined out. But often people forget that's not how trees grow in nature and we do want to make miniature trees.
So in this case it's not about creating pads and pruning wont be either.
Pruning will be just maintenance and focus on smaller dense foliage. But always in a nature like shape.
I made this as an example on that forum to show people there are many ways of styling trees.
The mugo is more artificial like more of my trees.
But I prefer a natural twist.
Everything should look perfect and lined out. But often people forget that's not how trees grow in nature and we do want to make miniature trees.
So in this case it's not about creating pads and pruning wont be either.
Pruning will be just maintenance and focus on smaller dense foliage. But always in a nature like shape.
I made this as an example on that forum to show people there are many ways of styling trees.
The mugo is more artificial like more of my trees.
But I prefer a natural twist.
discusmike
Omono
Nice work Chris!
Vance Wood
Lord Mugo
I am curious as to what you mean about the Mugo being more artificial like more of my trees? I am not sure this is what you intended to say but if so,----or either way, I do not understand what it is you are saying.
ChrisV
Shohin
I mean if you look at especially evergreens those perfect rounded pads straightend out underneath for example. trees with shapes they never have in nature. Nature is just a little more messy and sloppy, just more nature. 
Excuse me if it's difficult to understand, but english is not my native language and it's hard for me to find the right words sometimes. Like now bit difficult to explain.
But you also know mugo's don't grow like that in the mountains the have a different shape. And so do other trees I have. that's kind of what I meant.
Excuse me if it's difficult to understand, but english is not my native language and it's hard for me to find the right words sometimes. Like now bit difficult to explain.
But you also know mugo's don't grow like that in the mountains the have a different shape. And so do other trees I have. that's kind of what I meant.
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Vance Wood
Lord Mugo
I mean if you look at especially evergreens those perfect rounded pads straightend out underneath for example. trees with shapes they never have in nature. Nature is just a little more messy and sloppy, just more nature.
Excuse me if it's difficult to understand, but english is not my native language and it's hard for me to find the right words sometimes. Like now bit difficult to explain.
But you also know mugo's don't grow like that in the mountains the have a different shape. And so do other trees I have. that's kind of what I meant.
Any art will exalt the traits that are attractive, bonsai is no different. However saying that these forms do not exist in nature is not true. For the most part that might be true but if you have ever seen a forrest browsed by deer you will notice flat bottoms on lower branches.
This tendency to not do this or not do that, I have found, is avoiding a lot of work and using the argument " it isn't natural" as a way to justify, in this case, what is not done.
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ChrisV
Shohin
As you might know i never avoid work on my trees as a matter affect I work on them every single day sometimes more than eight hours. It's just that mother nature creates rougher images than we do when we style bonsai. I've seen your trees too and they also like a lot of mine don't come close to how these trees grow in there natural form.
I'm not saying things are wrong or good just saying the there are more ways that lead to rome.
As for art I studied art for some years and am well aware of what it means maybe that's the reason I think art is at it's best closest to the source or one who invented it.
I'm not saying things are wrong or good just saying the there are more ways that lead to rome.
As for art I studied art for some years and am well aware of what it means maybe that's the reason I think art is at it's best closest to the source or one who invented it.
drew33998
Masterpiece
No. Not the pad talk again.....
ChrisV
Shohin
Woody meaning The Jin right? That Will be done in time. Just letting it weather for a while.
daygan
Chumono
ahh... au naturel, eh? I see what you're talking about now
seriously, though, great looking tree. (even though my slow connection has only downloaded the top half of the full-sized image)
nathanbs
Omono
The "natural" look happens to work well for some trees like this one but not at all for others. It's knowing when and how to use all the tools in your shed properly to execute the "best" tree out of what raw material you are working with. I think to say that we are trying to make miniature trees is a severely under exaggerated description of what we are trying to do. Great use of your material looks great!
Vance Wood
Lord Mugo
This tree specifically, and species in general is good example of under stating the rules in order to acquire a beautiful image.
Paradox
Marine Bonsologist
Beautiful tree. Thank you for sharing it with us.
october
Masterpiece
Very nice. In my opinion, this tree is a more natural style in regards to it's height, not pads. Proportion wise for bonsai, it might look a little tall. However, for a tree growing in nature, this is how it would look. This tree presents a beautiful "natural" image.
Now, in this case, in regards to pads. Referring to this tree as "natural" because the pads are a bit loose is not applicable. You really can't take much more off without risking some die back. Since the tree is so small, this tree will probably always look "natural". If you want to keep this little guy healthy, the pads should probably always be kept a little shaggy.
Rob
Now, in this case, in regards to pads. Referring to this tree as "natural" because the pads are a bit loose is not applicable. You really can't take much more off without risking some die back. Since the tree is so small, this tree will probably always look "natural". If you want to keep this little guy healthy, the pads should probably always be kept a little shaggy.
Rob
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