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i dont post often, but am trying to make my collection better each year. the one pitch pine is BIG hopefully it makes it after its first attempt into a pot this year.
 
i know the azalea is scrawny it came from my front yard 3 years ago, and finally really produced flowers.
 
It looks like you are trying to wire your JBP with aluminum wire? I suggest that you will find you have better results if you use copper. Yes, it is more expensive. But it holds better. Aluminum is just too soft. It won't hold on JBP. The tree will revert back to it's original shape, unless you use really large aluminum wire. You need to get those branches down.

That San Jose juniper looks really nice. And you've got great potential in that big pitch pine, too!
 
The azalae is a nice little tree, I would either air layer or just chop that right trunk as it has good movement below there and would be pretty thick with such a small trunk. Its best to work on these like this when dormant though. You have some nice looking trees, I love the Juniper and the pines.

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Painter, I like your last two pics, they show some real potential. You should post more often!
 
I don't want to start a big fight, it's not worth it, but copper wire does have some advantages over aluminum, especially on sappy, springy material like pines. It is definantly stronger wire. Same diameter wire, copper is considerably stronger. Annealing it will make it soft enough to handle easily to wrap the wire, but once bent, the copper metalic structure "crystalizes" into place. Which means that the more you bend it, the stiffer it becomes. Therefore, wrapped around a branch, then bent into place, the wire is stiffer, and will hold its position. Aluminum just doesn't do that. So, to get it to stay, you have to use a thicker aluminum wire than copper wire to do the same job.

You can use copper wire when doing guy wire training. Aluminum wire will stretch, and the branch won't stay "down".

Annealed copper turns dark brown when wired on the tree and left outside. It almost blends in with the tree. Well wired, it's unobtrusive.

Most aluminum is colored but still looks "fresh". And since the wire will have to be larger to be effective, it's more apparant when you look at the tree.

Copper does have it's disadvantages:

It is more expensive. If you wire a branch, and don't like it, and want to rewire, you generally can't unwrap and use the wire over. It gets set, so you'd have to cut it off. Aluminum you could probably unwrap and use again. Because it 'sets', it's more likely to cut in to the branch sooner than aluminum. Also, because you use thinner copper, the thin wire cuts in faster than aluminum. Also, to remove copper, you pretty much have to cut it into little chunks to get it off. Aluminum can be unwrapped.

I tend to use copper on my pines. Aluminum on my azaleas and zelkova. I use aluminum for tying trees in pots. I will use copper on my azalea and zelkova if the aluminum isn't doing the job of holding.
 
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