species ID help, please

Rose Mary

Rose Mary

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No comments yet?, had it posted in wrong category.

When I got this was told it was an alder...last winter.
As it leafed out I realized not any alder I've seen....no serrations on leaves.
leaves Much rounder and smooth. I have several alders I've collected. The bark looks similar, color and texture...

Sorry for poor quality pics, taken on my cheap phone. Got close to leaves so you can see the shape of them.

The tree is now about 18" with a 3 plus inch trunk. It is living happily in a colander as is until next year when I will do further branch reduction and another chop.

Hoping someone will recognize what it is. Not like my beech or birch??

Thank you
Rose Mary
SW Oregon
 
does it bleed when you cut it bc if it does the heart shaped leaves make me think it could be a ficus religiosa
 
thanks, no not redbud, I have several redbuds on the property.
 
My first thought was Hackberry but the leaves don't quite match and the bark seems wrong. My best guess is some sort of Prunus species, mostly based on the horizontal bits on the bark. Have you had it long enough to know if it blooms?
 
The texture of the leaves as well as the way the new growth looks in photo number 2 also leads me right to redbud. Sometimes the leaf shape can differ, I have lots of them here, and some of the volunteers can be a bit odd. I've never seen prunus with a rounded leaf shape...
 
Thanks for the ideas.
I dont think it's a rebud. Totally different bark than the redbuds I have which have a more reddish smooth reddish bark.
The leaves on this unknown are not flat like the red bud leaves. more curved and different texture. (Judy, I should say not like my particular redbuds, which have smooth bark, Bark is more similar to alder or, grayish and not smooth). It does have kinda heart shape but not as definite or flat as redbuds I have seen
With that said, if it's a redbud its a different cultivar than I am familiar with and that is entirely possible.

I apologize for the poor quality photos. I will try to get a better pic of the leaves and bark. It was mislabeled alder because of the bark color and texture, it had no leaves at the time. I was attracted to the trunk, movement and taper. It seems to be backbudding so next year will be working the branches back. Course knowing the species would be nice. Ramification tendencies etc.

No blooms this year, so I don't know. Didn't expect it to bloom with the chop and branch work.

Thank you all again
Rose Mary
SW Oregon
 
Those leaves are alternate, right? ... and the edges are serrate, not entire? If they're serrate, are they sort of blunt/rounded serrations?
 
http://farm9.static.flickr.com/8014/7577052010_855f69e042_b.jpg
http://farm9.static.flickr.com/8022/7577051882_42a754ce1e_b.jpg
http://farm8.static.flickr.com/7275/7577051840_4c2468cbbc_b.jpg
some additional photos of the leaves.
They are not serrated and curve, the redbud leaves are very flat and wider.
for some reason today I am unable to get the photos to show instead of the link... following two are redbud leaves
http://thumbp5-ne1.thumb.mail.yahoo...f=1218&ctype=image/jpeg&fid=Sent&w=1158&h=434
http://thumbp5-ne1.thumb.mail.yahoo...f=1218&ctype=image/jpeg&fid=Sent&w=1158&h=434
thanks
Rose Mary

I take back what I've been saying about serration of leaves, these last photos show there are serrations, very small altho the the leaves are not like my collected alders ...hmmm
 
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I agree with MileHigh. You may be more familiar with Western Redbud, Cercis occidentalis, living in OR but I believe he is correct IDing this as Cercis canadensis, or Eastern Redbud. The heartshaped leaves seem right-on to me. I thought the same thing when I saw your original post.
 
the pic you attached is like the redbud pics which for some reason you can't access. will try again to post redbud which it is different...bark, color and texture is not the same as the redbud. These are redbuds I have first is front, second is back.
http://farm9.static.flickr.com/8021/7577051914_34442d43c9_b.jpg
http://farm8.static.flickr.com/7135/7577051834_49768cdb7c_b.jpg

The leaves on the unkown tree are not flat, They have a lot of curve, they are veined differently, dark green and not the same shape as redbud. The leaves do have a pointy end but are not broad, flat and round like the redbud. Plus the leaves do have serrations on the edges, small ones. Had to get out the reading glasses.

Sorry for the poor pics, guess I'm just not getting the right pic quality.

thanks again
Rose
 
ok didn't read replies properly. I need to do some more research... you both have much more experience with id of material.
Thank you, will researcg for other redbuds that may have the leaves like this tree.

Anyway guess indeed it was mislabeled (alder). and is a different cultivar of redbud that the ones I have. It looks closer to alder than redbud ....leaf and bark wise.
Oh well
My redbuds orginally came from Arkansas with my grandmother who planted the mother tree it in Idaho years ago, I picked up some starts from the tree when I was in Idaho a few years back.

Thank you again.
Rose Mary
 
Dont know, this wasnt an exotic nursery or considered a value of any sort, was in the 5 buck corner.
It is apparently quite hardy.
Not familiar with chinese tallow will look it up
 
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