Sugar Maple defoliated

Here's my strategy for keeping internodal length short, it's a problem with S. Maples for sure.

The red circle is all stuff I know I won't use, the blue circle stuff I probably will use.

I'll prune the outside of the tree in spring but leave the red circled stuff there. If nothing is pruned the blue might not do anything. During the big spring push all the red does grow stupidly long internodes for sure. The blue left behind typically forms nice short spacing. Once hardened off it stays short and the branch or trunk section can be let loose to grow if it needs to. I'm only growing trunk sections and very beginnings of branch for now, not real ramification but it seems to work pretty good so far.
Normally I would have a new leader section (green arrow) with short nodes all set up by the same strategy a season before chopping to it and I did, real nice. It was broken off by a dog, regrown and eaten by a deer so that's what's left but I think it's back on track now.
I don't know if anyone out there really practices this method or not, just thought I'd throw it out there because I like it. image.jpg

Oh, here's an older shot from the past, red circle that wasn't meant to be kept long term, blue circle popped a bud due to the terminal pruning but grew short useable internodes. That's the current green arrow area but it did suffer accidents so what it is isn't what it was. The strategy is basically just pruning one or two buds distal to what's meant to be used. Especially before the big spring flush. (Kind of seems to be the only flush for me here)image.jpg anyone else do this or like the idea?
 
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Keep going man, I almost bought a sugar maple but figured I'd have enough on my plate messing with red maple (rubrum). Trunk and nebari are top notch as far as my taste is concerned. I wonder why it's been giving you touble with minimal growth, are they native to your area? I hope you can do something promising with this, I need some inspiration to start one of my own.
 
Very interesting @wireme I really like your tree. In the ground they grow all summer with about three pushes of growth (that I noticed). I have three air layers I took that are growing well. I am keeping them in Chilliwack at the moment. Next time I am out there I will grab one to observe its growth habit closer.
 
Keep going man, I almost bought a sugar maple but figured I'd have enough on my plate messing with red maple (rubrum). Trunk and nebari are top notch as far as my taste is concerned. I wonder why it's been giving you touble with minimal growth, are they native to your area? I hope you can do something promising with this, I need some inspiration to start one of my own.


Thanks

It hasn't really been giving me trouble with minimal growth. Just that year it was accidentally defoliated it went a long time leafless. Spring growth is strong anyways, can't seem to count on any additional flushes. Same with Amurs for me so far. They are not native but are just barely cold hardy to my zone.
 
Very interesting @wireme I really like your tree. In the ground they grow all summer with about three pushes of growth (that I noticed). I have three air layers I took that are growing well. I am keeping them in Chilliwack at the moment. Next time I am out there I will grab one to observe its growth habit closer.

Chilliwack, cool. Three pushes, is that with pruning or just leaving them to grow?
Thanks, good to see someon else from BC!
 
Oh, well that's cool. You may have been lucky it didn't grow that late in the season then. I love using natives, I'm getting to the point where it's all I'm feeling passionate about, and sugar maple grows here in my state. NEVER see them in the wild though, just invasive norway maple
 
Chilliwack, cool. Three pushes, is that with pruning or just leaving them to grow?
Thanks, good to see someon else from BC!
The 'Wack is where I leave most of my trees in pots. The maples I took my air layers from are in Abbotsford and are about 30 years old. I don't prune them, well, not much. My pruning was only on a couple branches to try and shorten the internodes which seems to work. Did you see my sugar maple thread? After a trunk chop (in the ground) it grew 12' branches. I have reason to believe that the leaves and internodes can both be disembiggened with the right techniques. Now I just need to start writing down what I am doing to what branches. I have a small orchard to experiment on.

One thing I know sugar maples hate is salt of any kind. They are very sensitive to it.
 
Been a little while... anything new from this tree?


Hasn’t gotten any worse. Not a great deal of progress on the upper portion of the tree from season to season but I expect to see improvement of the base and nebari next time I see it. It been getting reported every fourth season, I’ll probably stick with that which means one more year. It’s still deep under snow right now.
Thanks for asking.
 
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