Chris Johnston
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The person with talent may be able to spot a good tree when he sees it. Some can see what it should look like in the future. But talent can not be introduced and learned. A true master’s talent will develop into a unique style. But it will sit on the shoulders of his master.
If one only have talent and no technique, it is hard to maintain and continue to improve the tree as it continues to develop.
Without a good foundation, one will have to re-invent a way to style and develop bonsai. That is a big waste of time, since the knowledge is already here. The Japanese have developed technique for several hundred years. Information is now passed on to the next generations.
Chris,
I know you have talent and I know you know. But the trouble to me is that most that begin bonsai frequent the internet (notice I did not say forums ) They think that their talent must meet the talent of those that have learned from good old trial and error. I know because I have been at it for some time now and I still think I do not have talent.
What is Talent?? Keeping a tree alive for more then a few years? Killing trees many times? To me killing trees many times will improve your talent You have done it and you have learned. You can take many opinions and try it to see if it works. This may kill a few trees but at least you have learned something from it. Am I right?? Bonsai (to me) comes with in, to be able to see the tree within the tree and work towards that goal,,wrong or right,,to be able to see into the future!! Learn how that tree grows and take it from there. If the tree does not want to go where you want to take it sit back (if you haven't killed it) and see where this tree is telling you where to take it.
Chris,,I know many us want to create that masterpiece tree!! But think about it? If you get that masterpiece tree then you must quit work quit everything that you have been used to for the last ,,who knows many years, and travel to all the bonsai shows This would be awsome!! But who is going to pay the bills
So Chris there are probably many out there that bonsai, that you and I will never hear of because they do it and it stays at home! They do it for the art in their souls and could give a flying fart if anyone sees it! Its only those that frequent the net that want more.
Think about it?? My glass is empty got to go get more
A Friend in bonsai
John
Talent.
It can't be learned, it can't be bought, it can't be traded for or stolen, you either have it, or you don't. Period.
Talent can be developed from raw to refined, talent can be refined by learning technique, but the talent must be there to start with.
It is easy to see those with talent, it is easy to see those without, but it is always best to let the person discover their talent or lack of on their own.....besides those without will not believe you and those with will find out anyhow.
Will
I disagree on it being Stolen.....
But that is another story.
Irene
I disagree on it being Stolen.....
But that is another story.
Oh please do tell, I'd like to hear how this can be done. One can steal another persons work created with talent, but the talent itself can not be stolen.
Will
Yes it can!
There are only a handfull of close friends that know that story.
Irene
Oh please do tell, I'd like to hear how this can be done. One can steal another persons work created with talent, but the talent itself can not be stolen.
Will
Yes it can!
There are only a handfull of close friends that know that story.
Irene
With all due respects, it helps no one to make an assertion that talent can be stolen and then refuse to publish the proof. Unless we are talking about some metaphysical soul snatching, talent can be lost; but I don't believe it can be stolen.
With all due respects, it helps no one to make an assertion that talent can be stolen and then refuse to publish the proof. Unless we are talking about some metaphysical soul snatching, talent can be lost; but I don't believe it can be stolen.
Vance with all due Respect it can. There are many on this forum that are Educated in the Medical Field. But as I told Will it is another story and I do not feel it needs to be told here.
Irene