Temperate -> Sub-Tropical -> Tropical

Anthony

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So, here is how it is ...........

Planted 30 J,B,pine seed -------- 25 survive -------- 10 or so grow rapidly.
First set 30 + years down the road no problems
zone 7 to zone 10 to zone 13b

Planted 40 Mikawa -------- 10 survive ----------- still growing well 3 + years.
zone 4 to zone 9 to zone 13b

1 J.red.pine growing well as well. 10 seeds in a pack.

Okay, the earth was once Sub-Tropical so,
How about trying - seeds of White Pine, Mugho, Trident, and normal maple.
Plan - Christmas obtain seed,
Do germination bit, see what survives and for how long [ without a fridge ]

Don't you just love experiments?

Inspired by the birdies that poop going back North from South America.
We keep finding stuff along the cliffs of the seaside facing Venezuela,
and Venezuelan sea facing mountains are at 6000 plus feet.
In Jamaica they have the Celtis at 3000 + feet, by the way.y

Heh heh Bonsai Monsters.
Good Day
Anthony
 

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Okay, the earth was once Sub-Tropical so,
How about trying - seeds of White Pine, Mugho, Trident, and normal maple.
Plan - Christmas obtain seed,
Do germination bit, see what survives and for how long [ without a fridge ]
Hummmm....
JWP and Mugo Pines were tried many times around here (even inside big horizontal glass-topped fridges) with no success.
As for Tridente Maples, many thrive here.
 

Ryceman3

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I don’t do JWP because I don’t think it gets cold enough here in winter, and too hot and dry in summer. That’s not because I’ve tried though, it’s what I am told and also from what I rationalise in my own mind given JWP are mountain trees naturally and that is nothing like where I live. I say that not to discourage, but as incentive because if you can succeed with them I have no excuses!
No idea about Mugho but as for tridents, I think these are your best bet. I have many and they thrive here... in my opinion the key to longevity for you with them will be obtaining some kind of dormant period over the winter months, and humidity may be a factor but I am just postulating! I too love an experiment so good luck with them all, I’ll be watching how things develop, very inspiring. ??
 

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@Ryceman3 I think that the Mediterranean pine species of Pinus halepensis and Pinus brutia would thrive in your conditions.
Are there restrictions regarding importing of seeds?
 

Ryceman3

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@my nellie I would love to try but importing pine seeds (most, if not all seeds really) is illegal into Australia so I wouldn’t be able to try unless I can find seed locally. I have heard of Pinus halepensis so might be able to get these, Brutia I don’t know but that doesn’t mean it’s not here. Thanks for your recommendations!
 
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