The LIFE of a BUD: A Question

[Random Usr]

Buds swell ……. then they either open up to become leaves & blossoms … or they dry, wither, and die. But what about buds that do neither? What happens to buds that swell and remain that way the rest of the year? Can they stay alive but dormant all next winter to become leaves and blossoms the following year?

 

[GrimLore]

Dead/Dormant buds are normally a sign of serious problems where I live.

Grimmy

 

[sorce]

Roll that s....

Oops wrong thread.

I think it depends on the species.

If buds die on a ficus, they'll come back if you leave the leaf.
Elm too.

Pines? Reckon dead forever! Or at least years till a new bud.

Far as healthy dormant, sounds ok.

Sorce

 

[Random Usr]

Dead/Dormant buds are normally a sign of serious problems where I live.

Grimmy

Here too ... but I'm not talking about friends. I mean buds, like on the branches of a tree.

...... Far as healthy dormant, sounds ok.
Sorce

Intersting. I didn't know that.

 

[sorce]

This here.

Kind of more a nub than a bud.
Like it could be a root or a bud.


Showed up in June. Ain't done nothing yet.
If I chop this next year, or even prune a little, I expect it to grow.

Seems like it thought it might need it, then shut it down when the top got going.

I root pruned this one pretty hard in spring. Reckon it may have grown, if I didn't.
http://bonsainut.com/index.php?threads/ancient-elm.18331/

Sorce

 

[Dav4]

Buds swell ……. then they either open up to become leaves & blossoms … or they dry, wither, and die. But what about buds that do neither? What happens to buds that swell and remain that way the rest of the year? Can they stay alive but dormant all next winter to become leaves and blossoms the following year?

The answer to your question is "yes". Buds can mature but not open, yet remain viable the following year. I've heard of this happening with several collected pines, and I'm sure it can happen with other species.

 

[Random Usr]

This here.

Kind of more a nub than a bud.
Like it could be a root or a bud.
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Showed up in June. Ain't done nothing yet.
If I chop this next year, or even prune a little, I expect it to grow.

Seems like it thought it might need it, then shut it down when the top got going.

I root pruned this one pretty hard in spring. Reckon it may have grown, if I didn't.
http://bonsainut.com/index.php?threads/ancient-elm.18331/

Sorce

It's an elm, is it? My guess is it's a simple tumour, normal on some mature trees. Anyway, I don't suppose you really want a branch just there. Or do you?

 

[Random Usr]

The answer to your question is "yes". Buds can mature but not open, yet remain viable the following year. I've heard of this happening with several collected pines, and I'm sure it can happen with other species.

Thank you. I've been waiting to get a definitive answer to that question for a long, long time. It must be a guarded secret and only a few people know the answer.

 

[sorce]

It's an elm, is it? My guess is it's a simple tumour, normal on some mature trees. Anyway, I don't suppose you really want a branch just there. Or do you?

Just to fatten that waist!

Sorce

 

[Random Usr]

Just to fatten that waist!

Sorce

Ha-ha! The problem is that tumours don't do anything for the girth of a trunk - it just increases in size and hangs there like a belt pouch, even giving the illusion of an inverse taper:

 

[sorce]

Ha-ha! The problem is that tumours don't do anything for the girth of a trunk - it just increases in size and hangs there like a belt pouch, even giving the illusion of an inverse taper:

This thing does have a funky ass growth habit. Round bulging in the core.

I was thinking it may be a disease.
But it keeps growing so......

Sorce

 

[Random Usr]

This thing does have a funky ass growth habit. Round bulging in the core.

I was thinking it may be a disease.
But it keeps growing so......

Sorce

I think you were right when you called it a "nub". I have a ficus microcarpa that throws off aerial roots but sometimes they begin without developing more than a “nub”. Worst case scenario would be a hypoxylon canker which can be fatal, but I really don't think you've got one of those.

 

[Robert E Holt]

Worst case scenario would be a hypoxylon canker which can be fatal...

Might want to see a doctor about that right away sorce!!

 

[GrimLore]

The thread changes meaning after 12 Noon in my house - Budweiser...



Grimmy

 

[Robert E Holt]

Are those hypoxylon cankers?

 

[GrimLore]

Are those hypoxylon cankers?

Nope those are "swelling buds"

Grimmy

 

[Dav4]

The thread changes meaning after 12 Noon in my house - Budweiser...

Grimmy

Just trying to help...
http://www.webmd.com/digestive-disorders/cirrhosis-liver

 

[GrimLore]

Just trying to help...

You Sir are a trip Honest I hope you are as healthy as I am when you hit my age

Grimmy

 

[Random Usr]

Are those hypoxylon cankers?

I think Chandler Bing calls those ..... "nubins".

 

[sorce]

The thread changes meaning after 12 Noon in my house - Budweiser...

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Grimmy

"It's 5 o'clock somewhere"

Has been changed.
The new proper phrase is......

"It's noon At Grim's"

Even if it ain't!

Lol.

Thanks @Nebari !

Sorce