theone420
Shohin
Ordered my seeds from treeseeds.com today.
This will be my first bonsai contest and my first bonsai from seed. wish me luck
This will be my first bonsai contest and my first bonsai from seed. wish me luck
TheOne420's Japanese Black Pine Fom Seed - Six Year Contest!
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theone420
Shohin
Want to keep all my info here so I can remember what I did in 6 years. So I will start at the very beginning.
Order Details
Date Added: 11/08/2017
Payment Method: Pay with PayPal
Shipping Method: USPS First Class Mail (3-5 days)
Product................................................Quantity.............Price.....Total
Pomegranate Tree Seeds_______-Select: 25 Seeds....$2.00...$2.00
Japanese Persimmon Tree Seeds_-Select: 25 Seeds.....$3.00...$3.00
Japanese Black Pine Tree Seeds__-Select: 50 Seeds....$2.00...$2.00
..................................................................Sub-Total: $7.00
...............................USPS First Class Mail (3-5 days): $3.50
.........................................................................Total: $10.50
threw in some persimmon and pomegranate seeds since I
have been wanting a tree of each and the price was right
Order Details
Date Added: 11/08/2017
Payment Method: Pay with PayPal
Shipping Method: USPS First Class Mail (3-5 days)
Product................................................Quantity.............Price.....Total
Pomegranate Tree Seeds_______-Select: 25 Seeds....$2.00...$2.00
Japanese Persimmon Tree Seeds_-Select: 25 Seeds.....$3.00...$3.00
Japanese Black Pine Tree Seeds__-Select: 50 Seeds....$2.00...$2.00
..................................................................Sub-Total: $7.00
...............................USPS First Class Mail (3-5 days): $3.50
.........................................................................Total: $10.50
threw in some persimmon and pomegranate seeds since I
have been wanting a tree of each and the price was right
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theone420
Shohin
So I thought I would try a few distributors of seeds so I went back out and found some more vendors to try.
Rarexoticseeds.com
100 Pinus Thunbergii Seeds (Pinus Thunbergiana, Japanese Black Pine Seeds)
100 Pinus Thunbergii USD1.80
......................Subtotal USD1.80
Shipping & Handling USD4.90
..........Grand Total USD6.70
myseeds.co - Pricey but lets see how they work
Japanese Black Pine Seeds - CLASSIC Exfoliating Bark - Hardy Zone 4 - 8
(Seed Sizes: Pkt Size 10 seeds)x 2......................................Qty 2........... $1.00 USD $2.00 USD
MIKAWA Japanese Black Pine Seeds -DEEP FISSURED BARK -VERY Green Needle -Zone 4 - 9! hopefully these are better for zone 9(we'll see)
(Seed Sizes: Pkt Size 10 seeds)...........................................Qty 2......... $5.00 USD $10.00 USD
.......................................................................................................Subtotal: $12.00 USD
.......................................................................................................Discount: -$1.80 USD
........................................................................................................Shipping: $3.95 USD
..................................................................................................Grand Total: $14.15 USD
I am also looking at this Japanese Black Pine Starter kit that comes with everything needed to grow a black pine from seed. I have everything included but it would be nice to see how well the ready made kit will do against all my fancy pots and trays.
Rarexoticseeds.com
100 Pinus Thunbergii Seeds (Pinus Thunbergiana, Japanese Black Pine Seeds)
100 Pinus Thunbergii USD1.80
......................Subtotal USD1.80
Shipping & Handling USD4.90
..........Grand Total USD6.70
myseeds.co - Pricey but lets see how they work
Japanese Black Pine Seeds - CLASSIC Exfoliating Bark - Hardy Zone 4 - 8
(Seed Sizes: Pkt Size 10 seeds)x 2......................................Qty 2........... $1.00 USD $2.00 USD
MIKAWA Japanese Black Pine Seeds -DEEP FISSURED BARK -VERY Green Needle -Zone 4 - 9! hopefully these are better for zone 9(we'll see)
(Seed Sizes: Pkt Size 10 seeds)...........................................Qty 2......... $5.00 USD $10.00 USD
.......................................................................................................Subtotal: $12.00 USD
.......................................................................................................Discount: -$1.80 USD
........................................................................................................Shipping: $3.95 USD
..................................................................................................Grand Total: $14.15 USD
I am also looking at this Japanese Black Pine Starter kit that comes with everything needed to grow a black pine from seed. I have everything included but it would be nice to see how well the ready made kit will do against all my fancy pots and trays.
theone420
Shohin
MORE SEEDS...........
these seeds interested me and I wanted to see if the picture of a variegated tree is the mother tree. and the seeds are not gathered until the auction is paid so they should be fresh. maybe?
amazon purchase
Pinus thunbergiana: Japanese Black Pine Seeds
$6.00 + $6.95 shipping
Sold by TreeHelp Ltd.
these were also off amazon and not much info but they made it look like they are seeds from bonsai so maybe they are good. who knows?
amazon purchase
Hot Sale!60 Seeds/Lot Thunbergii Seeds Black Pine bonsai Tree Seeds Potted Plants Japanese Pine Tree
$4.98 + Free Shipping
Sold by Andradite
these seeds interested me and I wanted to see if the picture of a variegated tree is the mother tree. and the seeds are not gathered until the auction is paid so they should be fresh. maybe?
amazon purchase
Pinus thunbergiana: Japanese Black Pine Seeds
$6.00 + $6.95 shipping
Sold by TreeHelp Ltd.
these were also off amazon and not much info but they made it look like they are seeds from bonsai so maybe they are good. who knows?
amazon purchase
Hot Sale!60 Seeds/Lot Thunbergii Seeds Black Pine bonsai Tree Seeds Potted Plants Japanese Pine Tree
$4.98 + Free Shipping
Sold by Andradite
theone420
Shohin
https://www.bonsaiplaza.com
Order Date
Thursday 16 November
2017
Mikawa Kuromatsu, Japanse black pine......€6.56
Shipping & handling.....................................................................€0.62
Total..............................................................................................€7,18
Order Date
Thursday 16 November
2017
Mikawa Kuromatsu, Japanse black pine......€6.56
Shipping & handling.....................................................................€0.62
Total..............................................................................................€7,18
jeanluc83
Omono
I'm really curious how much difference there is between all your seedlings. Please make sure to keep track of which seeds are which.
theone420
Shohin
Got all my seeds in today. I will post pictures and my thoughts on the sellers tonight. The time is drawing nigh.
theone420
Shohin
amazon purchase
Pinus thunbergiana: Japanese Black Pine Seeds
Sold by TreeHelp Ltd.
HORRIBLE - BAD SHIPPING -First pack pictured below had 30 crushed seeds out of 50. They did replace the broken seeds but the pack they sent with the 30 replacement seeds also had about 10 crushed seeds so all in all only 40 seeds instead of 50
They know that there packaging is not working yet they continue with the process.
https://www.bonsaiplaza.com
Mikawa Kuromatsu, Japanse black pine seeds
Shipping took a bit longer but that was expected. Opposite of the last seller Bonsaiplaza really didn't want to let anything happen to these seeds the bot and full popcorn was surely overkill but appreciated.
treeseeds.com
great company - Fast shipping and they send free seeds. already have some persimmons germinated and planted
amazon purchase
Hot Sale!60 Seeds/Lot Thunbergii Seeds Black Pine bonsai Tree Seeds Potted Plants Japanese Pine Tree
Sold by Andradite
Shipped from china and took awhile to get here but they look to
be fresh and were well packaged
myseeds.co - Pricey but lets see how they work
Japanese Black Pine Seeds x 20
MIKAWA Japanese Black Pine Seeds x 20 (gave 4 to @namnhi )
Well packaged and shipped fast
Rarexoticseeds.com
100 Pinus Thunbergii Seeds (Pinus Thunbergiana, Japanese Black Pine Seeds)
Seeds look good. nice consistency in size - very few small seeds
Pinus thunbergiana: Japanese Black Pine Seeds
Sold by TreeHelp Ltd.
HORRIBLE - BAD SHIPPING -First pack pictured below had 30 crushed seeds out of 50. They did replace the broken seeds but the pack they sent with the 30 replacement seeds also had about 10 crushed seeds so all in all only 40 seeds instead of 50
They know that there packaging is not working yet they continue with the process.
https://www.bonsaiplaza.com
Mikawa Kuromatsu, Japanse black pine seeds
Shipping took a bit longer but that was expected. Opposite of the last seller Bonsaiplaza really didn't want to let anything happen to these seeds the bot and full popcorn was surely overkill but appreciated.
treeseeds.com
great company - Fast shipping and they send free seeds. already have some persimmons germinated and planted
amazon purchase
Hot Sale!60 Seeds/Lot Thunbergii Seeds Black Pine bonsai Tree Seeds Potted Plants Japanese Pine Tree
Sold by Andradite
Shipped from china and took awhile to get here but they look to
be fresh and were well packaged
myseeds.co - Pricey but lets see how they work
Japanese Black Pine Seeds x 20
MIKAWA Japanese Black Pine Seeds x 20 (gave 4 to @namnhi )
Well packaged and shipped fast
Rarexoticseeds.com
100 Pinus Thunbergii Seeds (Pinus Thunbergiana, Japanese Black Pine Seeds)
Seeds look good. nice consistency in size - very few small seeds
Attachments
theone420
Shohin
So I didn't get them in until the 4th but whoopie no biggy.
These are my 39 floaters for the Amazon order of 60 seeds from China
Sinkers = 72
Myseeds.com
Jbp
Floaters =2
Jbp
Sinkers = 16
MIKAWA JBP
Floaters = 1
Sinkers = 15
Bonsaiplaza.com
Floaters = 20
Sinkers = 12
Treeseeds.com
Floaters = 1
Sinkers = 115
Rareexoticseeds.com
Floaters = 2
Sinkers = the rest. You count. Lol 102 of 100 ordered
Treehelp.com
Floaters = 11
Sinkers = 43
The rest were damaged in shipping.
These are my 39 floaters for the Amazon order of 60 seeds from China
Sinkers = 72
Myseeds.com
Jbp
Floaters =2
Jbp
Sinkers = 16
MIKAWA JBP
Floaters = 1
Sinkers = 15
Bonsaiplaza.com
Floaters = 20
Sinkers = 12
Treeseeds.com
Floaters = 1
Sinkers = 115
Rareexoticseeds.com
Floaters = 2
Sinkers = the rest. You count. Lol 102 of 100 ordered
Treehelp.com
Floaters = 11
Sinkers = 43
The rest were damaged in shipping.
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dirk hoorelbeke
Omono
How long did you soak? Lot of floaters with BonsaiPlaza. Will you sow the floaters?
theone420
Shohin
24 hr soak. I didn't soak all the bonsaiplaza seeds I purchased, but I was surprised too. And as you can see they were all pretty much white seeds and they say those are usually immature seeds so it makes sense.
I am however stratifying all seeds and they have been separated and labeled. Sow we will see........
I am however stratifying all seeds and they have been separated and labeled. Sow we will see........
theone420
Shohin
Ok so I guess I stratified for 2 and a half weeks or so. Put them in on the 4th and pulled them out on the 21st.
This is how I labeled each bag to know what seller and which seeds where floaters? or sinkers
.
All ? were placed on the right side of the trays and on the left. I had more seeds than I had cells so I did the 36 cells on the right with a singe seed. Then I would start from the rear of the right side and would use the cells not used by the floaters. Some times I would put 3 seeds in one cell just to have enough room.
So i used 5 72 cell trays to plant 511 seeds
I need another couple strips of leds but I am hoping this works for now
lets see what happens next??
This is how I labeled each bag to know what seller and which seeds where floaters? or sinkers
.All ? were placed on the right side of the trays and
on the left. I had more seeds than I had cells so I did the 36 cells on the right with a singe seed. Then I would start from the rear of the right side and would use the cells not used by the floaters. Some times I would put 3 seeds in one cell just to have enough room.So i used 5 72 cell trays to plant 511 seeds
I need another couple strips of leds but I am hoping this works for now
lets see what happens next??
dirk hoorelbeke
Omono
Looks like a lab to me...
theone420
Shohin
First sign of life from Treeseeds.com with 2 seeds popping first on Jan 31st(10 days since sow) and the second on the Feb 1st
one of the Mikawa Kuromatu seeds started Feb 1st
And one from Rarexoticseeds.com as well
And no heat mat. I have a small heat mat but in order to keep all plants in same conditions I will not be using it.
one of the Mikawa Kuromatu seeds started Feb 1st
And one from Rarexoticseeds.com as well
And no heat mat. I have a small heat mat but in order to keep all plants in same conditions I will not be using it.
RobertB
Chumono
Soil looks pretty wet. How often are you watering?
theone420
Shohin
I had just watered but every 3 days since I don't have covers for the trays and they are indoors. I let the tops of the soil start changing color before I water.
RobertB
Chumono
Awesome and thank you for the insight.
theone420
Shohin
Got some starters
In the left tray is the tray with my
Mikawa Kuromatu seeds from bonsaiplaza.com in front left and bad seeds in front right of tray
Mikawa seeds from myseeds.co behind those
JBP seeds from myseeds.co in the back of that tray in the right side
rarexoticseeds.com JBP seeds in the right tray. Doing well !!!
The seeds from the chinese Amazon seller - Andradite
CRAP !!!
Seeds from Amazon seller -TreeHelp Ltd. S are in the left tray - Not the best results just like the shipping
Right tray are some of my seeds from Treeseeds.com - They are doing great
BUT WAIT !!!!!
I am new to pines and I dont know what this is that i see in the Treeseeds.com tray
What Makes
THIS happen?
So if anyone can maybe direct me into what this is an indication of I would be grateful
But just imagine a Pine with ghost white needles wouldn't that be cool..........and I would guess it will thrive in darkness....
In the left tray is the tray with my
Mikawa Kuromatu seeds from bonsaiplaza.com in front left and bad seeds in front right of tray
Mikawa seeds from myseeds.co behind those
JBP seeds from myseeds.co in the back of that tray in the right side
rarexoticseeds.com JBP seeds in the right tray. Doing well !!!
The seeds from the chinese Amazon seller - Andradite
CRAP !!!
Seeds from Amazon seller -TreeHelp Ltd. S are in the left tray - Not the best results just like the shipping
Right tray are some of my seeds from Treeseeds.com - They are doing great
BUT WAIT !!!!!
I am new to pines and I dont know what this is that i see in the Treeseeds.com tray
What Makes
THIS happen?
So if anyone can maybe direct me into what this is an indication of I would be grateful
But just imagine a Pine with ghost white needles wouldn't that be cool..........and I would guess it will thrive in darkness....
sorce
Nonsense Rascal
That's awesome!
Albino!
Sorce
Albino!
Sorce
