Thoughts on pre bonsai

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Brooklyn bonsai selling this for 60. My end goal is a jade forest. I think this would be a nice center piece with smaller trees with more movement around. Is it worth it?
 

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It IS a nice tree..

But you should see if they offer one that’s not so straight in that first 3-5”
 
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These are options. Thicker more vertical are 60 others 30. Opinions welcome. First go at this so more you give the better! TYIA!
 

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Sorry, I can't see prices, how much are they asking? These things grow like weeds in dirt. We have a succulent garden and you can break them apart and they'll grow like crazy especially with fertilizer.
 
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Yes 25 for smaller, up to 60 for thicker/straighter. Or do you think I look for an elephant push and establish my own? This just looked like a good place to start/get an established center piece to work from.
 

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If you are gonna just “trunk chop”.. go for the “sexiest” beneath the trunk chop area..

but i feel there are better options.
 
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Ok new plan. Buy 3 or 4 and make a scaled forest with larger trees in front scaling down to give "depth". Using cuttings for smaller trees. Thoughts?

Upon receiving do replant in larger training pot with bonsai soil or 1 large training pot to make make forest? In assuming individual to help establish... train... etc
 

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You can make a forest of cuttings, or a forest of larger trees, but never the twain shall meet. This is a Jade forest...
Jd1 2020_0628 N Edit.JPGBelow is a forest of cuttings from the forest above...
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This is what they look like next to each other...
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They are obviously out of scale with each other and wouldn't look right if in the same pot. You can have one or two small ones strategically located in a group of big trees, but just as fillers-of-empty-space, NOT as brothers and sisters. We use the term forest advisedly. A forest is a particular something that has a definition in the mind's eye of the beholder. We can mimic a tiny portion of a forest with a group of "trees" that have proportions similar to real trees in a real forest. If the relative proportions are out of kilter, the whole presentation falls apart and it's just a bunch of plants in a pot. If you need to tell the viewer that it's a forest, it's not a forest. Properly assembled, people will say, "Oh, look a miniature forest!" Except Jade or Portulacaria will look more like a jungle to the average Joe.

Portulacaria...
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Porty forest...
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This Porty forest is 4 inches tall. Anything that disturbs that set of proportions ruins the image.
Here is a Tamarack forest that is 36 inches tall...
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Any image can be enhanced by adjacent things that look like they belong there. They reinforce the scale, as here...
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It's a package deal. All, or nothing.
 
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Of these, I'd probably buy this one, and then scrape the underside of the horizontal branch down to flesh, then tie it in and let the other branches act as the forest. I don't KNOW if this works, but based on what I DO know about jades, my assumption is that it would root fairly easily and act as a raft forest, which could be cool

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You can make a forest of cuttings, or a forest of larger trees, but never the twain shall meet. This is a Jade forest...
View attachment 395009Below is a forest of cuttings from the forest above...
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This is what they look like next to each other...
View attachment 395013
They are obviously out of scale with each other and wouldn't look right if in the same pot. You can have one or two small ones strategically located in a group of big trees, but just as fillers-of-empty-space, NOT as brothers and sisters. We use the term forest advisedly. A forest is a particular something that has a definition in the mind's eye of the beholder. We can mimic a tiny portion of a forest with a group of "trees" that have proportions similar to real trees in a real forest. If the relative proportions are out of kilter, the whole presentation falls apart and it's just a bunch of plants in a pot. If you need to tell the viewer that it's a forest, it's not a forest. Properly assembled, people will say, "Oh, look a miniature forest!" Except Jade or Portulacaria will look more like a jungle to the average Joe.

Portulacaria...
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Porty forest...
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This Porty forest is 4 inches tall. Anything that disturbs that set of proportions ruins the image.
Here is a Tamarack forest that is 36 inches tall...
View attachment 395016
Any image can be enhanced by adjacent things that look like they belong there. They reinforce the scale, as here...
View attachment 395017
It's a package deal. All, or nothing.
This is very interesting. Do you know of a resource to learn more?
 
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