Top Half Bare Root Repot

MSU JBoots

Shohin
Messages
420
Reaction score
502
Location
Grand Rapids Michigan
USDA Zone
6a
8C521FE5-23EC-429B-82F8-3B92221466B9.png
In this podcast they discuss an individual (Tom Feitzel, spelling?) who presented a new technique for repotting nursery stock. You can hear them describe the technique at 58:30. From my understanding they bare root the top half of the rootball and replace with suitable bonsai soil. They leave the bottom half untouched then remove it the following year. I’m curious if anyone was at this farm to table event and saw the presentation? Also curious if anyone has being doing it? It seems genius and Michael Hagadorn intends to start teaching it. I might have to try it on my Austrian Pine next spring.
 

BobbyLane

Imperial Masterpiece
Messages
6,062
Reaction score
17,704
Location
London, England
I did exactly this with a couple of nursery trees in the past couple weeks. no its not uncommon to tease out the top surface of a nursery pot, comb out some roots and replenish the top soil and leave the rest, or slice a little off the bottom too until a later date. I have dealth with many hornbeams like this. nothing new, enthusiasts have been working nursery material like this for years.
id still tread with caution on some conifers though.
 
Last edited:

MSU JBoots

Shohin
Messages
420
Reaction score
502
Location
Grand Rapids Michigan
USDA Zone
6a
How might one suggest going about repotting this Austrian pine next spring? It was quite drastically reduced in foliage last fall when I bought and let grow free so far this year. It’s quite root bound, doesn’t percolate well, and likely has a lot of circling roots.0850F089-E5B0-43C5-8256-F86BD3427D6E.jpeg
 

sorce

Nonsense Rascal
Messages
32,912
Reaction score
45,595
Location
Berwyn, Il
USDA Zone
6.2
Splitting those half makes more sense than the other side by side halfs.

Dig it.

Sorce
 

nuttiest

Omono
Messages
1,061
Reaction score
856
Location
fl
USDA Zone
10
I wonder if you could dust some sulfur in there to alleviate root rot on bottom
 

nuttiest

Omono
Messages
1,061
Reaction score
856
Location
fl
USDA Zone
10
It would be to discourage rot where there is a soil change from the top substrate to the bottom. If the top substrate were new pumice, for example, to get fine roots going on top, a dusting of sulfur would help. Why ODD?
 

leatherback

The Treedeemer
Messages
14,046
Reaction score
27,358
Location
Northern Germany
USDA Zone
7
It would be to discourage rot where there is a soil change from the top substrate to the bottom. If the top substrate were new pumice, for example, to get fine roots going on top, a dusting of sulfur would help. Why ODD?
Sounds like you have no clue what you are talking about, is all.
 

pandacular

Omono
Messages
1,706
Reaction score
3,079
Location
Seattle, WA
USDA Zone
9a
This is a technique I've had recommended from several of the very talented BSOP members with whom I have discussed repotting yamadori and field grown trees. The logic of the technique seems very sound, and I will be giving it a shot on my yamadori mountain hemlock. Thanks for the link to the presentation and the podcast.

Since this is somewhat of a necro-bump, I'm curious if anyone has used this technique and seen results in the past few years.
 

MSU JBoots

Shohin
Messages
420
Reaction score
502
Location
Grand Rapids Michigan
USDA Zone
6a
I still have not attempted it but now that you brought it up again perhaps I will try it this spring as I have about 10 trees to repot. Most all of them are coming out of organic soil.
 

roberthu

Chumono
Messages
829
Reaction score
582
Location
Atlanta GA
USDA Zone
7B
How might one suggest going about repotting this Austrian pine next spring? It was quite drastically reduced in foliage last fall when I bought and let grow free so far this year. It’s quite root bound, doesn’t percolate well, and likely has a lot of circling roots.
Bare-root the out layer this time. Then come back and bare-root the inner half 3-5 years later depending on how strong the tree responds.
 

Shima

Omono
Messages
1,183
Reaction score
1,806
Location
Hilo Hawai'i
USDA Zone
11A
Soji” is the Japanese word for the technique.
 

ShadyStump

Imperial Masterpiece
Messages
5,990
Reaction score
10,019
Location
Southern Colorado, USA
USDA Zone
6a
I've been trying to plan out how to report a really big spruce coming up shortly here. I think this might be the way to go. The tree has it's own thread already, so I'll be updating there when the time comes.
 

BonjourBonsai

Chumono
Messages
681
Reaction score
725
Location
Maryland, USA
USDA Zone
7a
Thanks for sharing that. I've got a mugo that has been in a nursery pot that needs to be re potted. I had 3 others just like it. They are older trees. I used @Vance Wood 's method of cutting off the bottom half in late summer but it was too much to fast for them. It worked well for younger nursery mugos though. I will try this technique on the remaining one. I like it because it encourages the tree to grow new roots up top before cutting.
 

RJG2

Omono
Messages
1,425
Reaction score
4,036
Location
Southern Maine
USDA Zone
6a
Bare-root the out layer this time. Then come back and bare-root the inner half 3-5 years later depending on how strong the tree responds.
Yes, that's another technique for getting something out of a nursery can.

Soji” is the Japanese word for the technique.
Completely different technique and purpose.

I'd recommend watching the video provided.
 
Top Bottom