Tree Line Collecting

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This tree looks interesting
 

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Cant figure out if its dead or not. Dont see any buds on it. That would be a nice one to. Has little prickles on it, I dont know what species it is
 
I dont have any bonsai soil atm, and cant get any anytime soon, If I do find a yamadori I like would it be acceptable to dig up the tree with as much roots as possible, and plant it in the yard of my new house? The soil at the new house is mostly clay, If I transplanted a yamadori tree into the ground would it have any chances of survival? Or should I just leave everything alone? I only have a bit of flourite dark, and potting soil. Unfortunately, I dont have any bonsai soil for the job. Anything I collect would be from the woods at my current home. Ive got to be out in 10 days, so Im not sure what to do.
 
Hello B and welcome.
Can't help you with the tree ID, but you are right, it does look interesting. This time of year it doesn't mean much that it is not growing. You can scratch the bark and if it is green underneath, its alive still.
Unless someone else is going to get the tree first, I would wait until you and pot it up correctly.
Read up here on NAPA 8822 (yeah, the auto store NAPA). You should probably be able to get that still. If so, wait a bit until the buds are just ready to pop, then dig it.
Good luck!
CW
 
If you have to plant it in the yard, I'd cut out a large square and fill it with 8822.
Maybe rocks first.

You can plant it in the Clay, but it's not conducive to good bonsai roots.

However, I got this thing that says 90% of collected D's should be layered for radial nebari anyway. Since they never ever ever ever ever have roots worth keeping.

Those can go straight in the clay since they'll be layered.

Sorce
 
If you have to plant it in the yard, I'd cut out a large square and fill it with 8822.
Maybe rocks first.

You can plant it in the Clay, but it's not conducive to good bonsai roots.

However, I got this thing that says 90% of collected D's should be layered for radial nebari anyway. Since they never ever ever ever ever have roots worth keeping.

Those can go straight in the clay since they'll be layered.

Sorce
Well since the roots are most likely shit, should I just plant them in my new yard, let them grow, and then airlayer it in a couple of years?
 
Well since the roots are most likely shit, should I just plant them in my new yard, let them grow, and then airlayer it in about three years?

Sounds like a plan.

Sorce
 
Sounds like a plan.

Sorce
Awesome, what do you think the probability of the trees surviving in straight clay? Do you think the soil would be to bad for them to grow at all?
 
Hello B and welcome.
Can't help you with the tree ID, but you are right, it does look interesting. This time of year it doesn't mean much that it is not growing. You can scratch the bark and if it is green underneath, its alive still.
Unless someone else is going to get the tree first, I would wait until you and pot it up correctly.
Read up here on NAPA 8822 (yeah, the auto store NAPA). You should probably be able to get that still. If so, wait a bit until the buds are just ready to pop, then dig it.
Good luck!
CW
If I could get my hands on a bag, would it be okay just using only Napa 8822? Or would I have to add something else to the mix?
 
looks like it my friend, oddly enough alot of them I lightly tugged on, and they had no roots at all. I walked through the woods for an hour, only finding a bunch of these as well. Nothing worth taking, I found a ginormous tree, about 8 feet in diameter!!! At least I discovered something cool on my yamadori hunting trip! Unfortunately it looks like it was chopped down 20200330_173652.jpg
 
It's not a really good candidate anyway, long internodes and brittle. Keep looking.
 
Awesome, what do you think the probability of the trees surviving in straight clay? Do you think the soil would be to bad for them to grow at all?

If that other one is growing in there.....

Sorce
 
If I could get my hands on a bag, would it be okay just using only Napa 8822? Or would I have to add something else to the mix?
You can grow in straight NAPA, but you'll need to fertilize eventually. I've got a few starters in straight NAPA, they;re doing fine.
When you first get the bonsai bug, its tough. You want to do so much. Luckily its the right time of year for collecting. However, I would just try collecting a few different species, nothing potentially valuable, save that for when you get some experience. Collect 3-4 saplings, maybe one trunk chop, on go to work getting them potted up and keeping them alive.
We all kill our first trees.
CW
 
You can grow in straight NAPA, but you'll need to fertilize eventually. I've got a few starters in straight NAPA, they;re doing fine.
When you first get the bonsai bug, its tough. You want to do so much. Luckily its the right time of year for collecting. However, I would just try collecting a few different species, nothing potentially valuable, save that for when you get some experience. Collect 3-4 saplings, maybe one trunk chop, on go to work getting them potted up and keeping them alive.
We all kill our first trees.
CW
What should I do If I dont have a sifter?
 
You really don't need to sift 8822 in my experience, so don't fret. Watch the dust though.
CW
 
Tommorow Im going to pick up a bag of DE, and Im gonna go over to that tree along the fence line I showed you a picture of, cut off all the noticably dead branches and limbs, scratch at the tree to see if it still has living cambium and pot it up in a medium sized pot! Would it be good for the tree to mix some flourite black into the 8822? And if the soil its in is 100% unorganic, what procedures should I take taking care of the tree? How much should I water, when should I feed, where should I keep it, etc. I myswell save myself the hassel and just put it in bonsai soil, so i dont have to fw it in the yard
 
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