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I bought two packs of 50 seeds from two different sources on Etsy. First time I did that. We’ll see…
My question is are results better stratifying in fridge or outside and waiting for nature? I have always done the fridge and I like it because it’s quicker basically and I start seeds inside. But all that takes much work. Are results just as good outside? Meaning percentage of seeds germinating?
 

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I bought two packs of 50 seeds from two different sources on Etsy. First time I did that. We’ll see…
My question is are results better stratifying in fridge or outside and waiting for nature? I have always done the fridge and I like it because it’s quicker basically and I start seeds inside. But all that takes much work. Are results just as good outside? Meaning percentage of seeds germinating?
I do not do the fridge thing. I germinate outside in trays. I have never counted but do not feel I loose a lot
 

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I also get best results from sowing outside as nature intended. Germination rates are as good or better than fridge stratification.
I have also found that trident maple does not actually need stratification, especially if the seed is reasonably fresh. Last spring I threw out some old seed and hundreds germinated despite no frost.
 

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I also get best results from sowing outside as nature intended. Germination rates are as good or better than fridge stratification.
I have also found that trident maple does not actually need stratification, especially if the seed is reasonably fresh. Last spring I threw out some old seed and hundreds germinated despite no frost.
I’ve noticed the same with “wild” trident seeds, ones dropped from a large trident in my housing estate. A few weeks ago I went for a walk and noticed thousands of little seedlings had popped up in the flower beds below the tree. They seemed to have germinated without being in the fridge over winter! Isn’t nature amazing!

Naturally I collected about 100 of the little sprouters and have them growing in some pots now.
 

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I tried the fridge thing with trident seeds and from a pack of 30 I got 2 seedlings.
Even put the seeds in hot water. Could be that the seeds were not fresh.

this year I will just leave them outside and see the results
 

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Are you guys experiencing the same results with JBP seeds?
 

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i dont believe it!! 😂
I've read and seen fresh seed germinating in the same year for red maples, so I could believe the same is true for tridents. Maybe if they dry out, some additional dormancy is reached.
 

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@Gr8tfuldad i just soak JBP seeds in water over night and sow and almost 100% success and with JRP.

i don’t think these tridents are fresh just gonna put in a tray and protect over winter outside.
 

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@Gr8tfuldad i just soak JBP seeds in water over night and sow and almost 100% success and with JRP.

i don’t think these tridents are fresh just gonna put in a tray and protect over winter outside.
Do you approach the same way, plant JBP in trays and let them go over winter? Or do you just plant in the spring like fresh trident seeds?
 

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Do you approach the same way, plant JBP in trays and let them go over winter? Or do you just plant in the spring like fresh trident seeds?
I don’t have experience with trident. But the pines worked for me without stratification every time. I’ve always stratified in fridge and started under grow lights. But regardless if your growing outside might as well put them out over winter.
 

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Do you approach the same way, plant JBP in trays and let them go over winter? Or do you just plant in the spring like fresh trident seeds?
Either will work. I generally sow seed in winter and leave the trays out but have also sowed in spring after frost and still get good germination. My conclusion is that JBP do not need stratification to germinate.
 

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Thank you guys for the information. This plays well to my laziness 😂
 

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I’ve noticed the same with “wild” trident seeds, ones dropped from a large trident in my housing estate. A few weeks ago I went for a walk and noticed thousands of little seedlings had popped up in the flower beds below the tree. They seemed to have germinated without being in the fridge over winter! Isn’t nature amazing!

Naturally I collected about 100 of the little sprouters and have them growing in some pots now.
Here are my collected little sprouters from the disobedient non-fridge trident

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More disobedience from trees! I plucked some dried crabapples from a crabapple tree on September 11 this year and planted the seeds directly into some seedling mix after an overnight soak in some water. 1 sprouted after 3 weeks and another has just started to pop up!

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