Trident Maples bloomed then stopped, Chinese elms green but no buds

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You'd do straight Pumice? I've had great results with DE so far and it's cheaper. There are places u can get 40lbs for cheap it's just shipping.
There in lies the rubs!
I can't afford shipping, particularly shipping out of California at $7 gallon of diesel.
 

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Yeah I'm looking at buying some but convenient this way. This way will suffice right? There's basically screwdriver sized holes a cm apart all around top to bottom. In the winter I'm assuming u have to protect more yes?

I didn't realize you are actually using Betty Crockers! That just my go to hate spew!

I don't believe in winter protection.

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I didn't realize you are actually using Betty Crockers! That just my go to hate spew!

I don't believe in winter protection.

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Haha nah using empty pho containers. This tree, how does one do nice nebari? Looking at this is it possible? Idk where to start and dont know what to cut or just leave and put in a pond basket @Bonsai Nut @sorce
 

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this is it possible?

Anything is possible, but that would be out of my "care" zone. I'm not big on trying to use something that needs either so much time or work I don't have time or skills for.

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Anything is possible, but that would be out of my "care" zone. I'm not big on trying to use something that needs either so much time or work I don't have time or skills for.

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How much of the root mass would u chop?
 

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How much of the root mass would u chop?

Nothing!

I'd try to splay out as much root as you can, and stick it in whatever is wide enough to contain them all flat.

If you could jam a closed umbrella up under to the base, then open it..... you gotta do that with your hands.

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Nothing!

I'd try to splay out as much root as you can, and stick it in whatever is wide enough to contain them all flat.

If you could jam a closed umbrella up under to the base, then open it..... you gotta do that with your hands.

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The roots of the Trident, bark is still very green. Is this alive, what would u guys do? @Bonsai Nut @sorce @penumbra No sign of root rot at all.
 

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A tree that needs to be nicked is a tree to be considered insulted once already this year.

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A tree that needs to be nicked is a tree to be considered insulted once already this year.

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Ugh my dude. Lol whole thread was started because this tree bloomed then stopped. Did a root inspection, nothing appears off. Was always told to Nick the bark to see if still green.
 

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told to Nick the bark

IMO...

All these hurting trees need is a reason to give up, I never been able to understand how a hole in em ain't that reason.

Once you're able to identify a shrivelly stick that ain't coming back, which is really as easy as looking, you won't have to scratch.

Don't know if Nickas just never cared to get to that point or what....

But ....well here's something I've never heard....

"I nicked this tree last week and it was still green, now it is alive and well".

Not that anyone would make a point to say it, but they never get updated, usually because Newbs find a "need" to Nick and usually the trees suck.

No one will ever scratch their $3000 tree, not because they're afraid to kill it but because at that point you're so familiar you don't have to.
Anything outside of regular pattern is enough to know what's going on. It's just experience.

So this tiny niche of trees that "should be" Nicked shouldn't even exist, so that makes the whole concept moronic to me.

Less work, less winter worry and protection, no need for nicking.

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I am pretty sure rockm is right and that the roots desiccated.
But on the mater of the elms, I am flummoxed. I have dozens of elms of all kinds and they always stay outside. The only two elms I ever lost outside were Cedar Elms that I think dried out three years back. The only Chinese Elms I ever lost were a few I tried to keep inside. I have a lot of them outside where they have been for 2 to 5 years. Even after this past cold winter, they are all fine and growing like weeds. My American Elm, Slippery Elm, Siberian Elm and Hybrid Elms are likewise doing fine outdoors.
"The only Chinese Elms I ever lost were a few I tried to keep inside." This is exactly what I was looking for! Tnx!
 
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