Unknown Pine ID

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Hi all.

I would gratefully, like to ask for some help with identifying this pine I have.

Unfortunately but very luckily I was able to pick this pine up from a person selling it as a shrub. So all I know is it is over 10 years old and it had been in very poor growing material with poor drainage and it has simply been left to grow on its own.

Please can anyone suggest a species or more.

Thank you.
 

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Has this pine already been posted in another thread?

It appears to be a 2 needle type so that eliminates a few species.
Bark is smooth even though that could still change as it ages but for now the smooth bark eliminates a few more possibilities.
After that ID becomes much more difficult. If we start working with possibilities and likelihood we'd eliminate all the rear and less often cultivated species. For Britain that would probably just leave Pinus mugho and Pinus sylvestris. In my experience the types of mugho generally cultivated for sale are generally more compact so I'd lean more toward Scots pine but that's just a guess.

With the info given that's about as close as I can get to an ID.
 

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Hi, yeah it has but I had hardly any replies to the ID giving me two different species and a person on there mentioned there was alot of people on here with pine expertise.

Potawatomi13 you commented on there a couple of days back, I belive.

The post was about a few things not just ID, so I thought it could of been being missed and it would be better placed as an ID only post. I wasnt having the option to edit the title either only my last post.

Apologies if I have broken a forum rule.
 

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The mughus variety of mugo is known to grow more upright, usually as a single trunk.
 

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Hi, yeah it has but I had hardly any replies to the ID giving me two different species and a person on there mentioned there was alot of people on here with pine expertise.
As a newbie you may not be aware that ID of pines is difficult. Lack of replies may not be that people have not looked but rather that the info given might not be enough to make an ID. As a new member you may not have seen the regular requests for ID based on dubious photos. It gets a bit monotonous relying twice or more every day to posts with poor quality photos expecting accurate ID of plants.
Pines can only be definitively identified from a combination of factors - needle clusters, bark and cone shape, size, arrangement. Any other ID is just guessing so often we just pass over threads asking for ID. That may seem tough but that's how life is. Adding extra threads does not always change the outcome.
No matter how experienced one one we can only make a guess given incomplete info.
The defining factor for pines in cones. Without cones any ID is only a guess.
 
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