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This was a weed tree growing in the back corner of my in laws’ yard. They wanted it out so I dug it out and grabbed it, but I have no what idea it is. Had to cut it to get it in the car - it was probably 15’ tall. Does anyone have any idea what it is?

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Fraxinus, definitely...

No... they aren’t great.
I am working with one... They are MUCH less than ideal.. long/random internodes and uncontrollable “tween-nodes” between the large, compound leaves..

I did “leaf cutting” experiments last year that KIND of helped..

No more than one node at a time if your gonna develop taper... Fraxinus (at least the North American ones) will Be a slow development process...

But all that being said... I’m still working on the lil’ turd fraxinus that I have.

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Actually, that’s what I was thinking -
Fraxinus pennsylvanica / Green Ash.

Are these suitable for bonsai? Will they back bud if chopped. I was thinking of layering off the top under the branch.
They will bud EVERYWHERE... actually kind of tiresome... I actually “notch cut” some spots to get them to NOT bud there. 🤣
 

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None of the Ash species native to eastern half of USA are good for bonsai. Ash and hickory both have long internodes and late compound leaves and a fairly coarse branch habit. All bad traits for bonsai.

There's one or two examples of Asian ash species that are passible bonsai. Also there's a desert ash native to California and Baja Mexico that "sorta" works okay. But none of the eastern NA ash are worth any effort.
 
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I have another one from the in laws’ yard. I think this is could be Pyrus Calleryana (Callery Pear). Can anyone confirm?
 

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Could be that too. I’d like to air layer under that bend where it has a little reverse taper, but wanted to confirm it’s suitable for bonsai first.
 

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Doesn't register as callery pear to me. Usually the leaves are smooth and shiny, and rounder. Looks like a prunus if I had to pick a genus. maybe zoom in on a leaf a little bit more, might give a clue
 

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Leaf looks VERY prunus... however.. not any prunus that I, personally, am familiar with.. looks like Prunus Avium var. Ulmifolia...

That’s not real..I made that up. 🤣🤣

But It DOES look Prunus.

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