What is the name of this spectacular pine ?

[bonhe]

Hi all,
I hope someone here can point it out for me.
This kind of pine has twisted trunk and branches . It is really nice to make a Bonsai form it. There are a lot of pines liked this in Southern California. Thanks.


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[Bonsai Nut]

Hey Tuan - we need closer photos of the needles. Could be an Aleppo Pine... but the needles (with needle length) with help a lot !

I'm on the landscaping committee in my homeowner's association, and we have added Aleppo Pine to our tree pallet because of how well it does in our area without supplemental water.

 

[Potawatomi13]

Weeping needles can see but how long/how many in bundle? Also need to see cone and size of cone. Should give idea of ID

 

[Wires_Guy_wires]

Aleppo pine do make the same weird coils, but the weeping needles say differently.
It could be Brutia, but that's a long shot.

 

[MrFancyPlants]

Perhaps not a pine at all but a casuarina? Hmm California? Maybe not, but the needles do tend to weep.

 

[bgurrola]

Canary Island Pine. They are used extensively as landscape trees in southern California.

 

[Melospiza]

Could be a Weeping Japanese Red pine (https://www.dreamstime.com/weeping-japanese-red-pine-tree-image118657044)? This other picture calls this a Japanese Black Pine, but I think it is just a mislabeled Red pine (https://backyardnotes.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/weepingblackpine.jpg).

Edit: Oh, apparently they are Canary Island Pines.

 

[Starfox]

Yeah I'd say so.
Pinus canariensis to be fancy.

These are all over Spain too, that is a very cool specimen in the photo.

Might not be though.

 

[Leo in N E Illinois]

California native pines, native to coastal areas; could be P. radiata, P. torreyana, P.muricata,

less likely native pines
P. attenuata, P. coulteri, P. jefferyi, or even P. ponderosa.

And as to pines imported for the landscape industry, any of the Mediterranean pines is a possibility.
Need images of the needles, how many in a bundle? the cones - the bristles and shape of the scales of the cone are important, and the bark. From these will be able to sort out the identity.

 

[bonhe]

Hey Tuan - we need closer photos of the needles. Could be an Aleppo Pine... but the needles (with needle length) with help a lot !

I'm on the landscaping committee in my homeowner's association, and we have added Aleppo Pine to our tree pallet because of how well it does in our area without supplemental water.

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Thanks all for your help. I am sorry that I can not get closer to these trees because they are in the fenced yard of the abandon house. I don't want to trespass !!!!
These are other views of the tall pine tree behind the short one.


I believe they are the same kind of pine with contorted branches. When look at these branches carefully, I found these small branches are all drooping down. It means the tree branches are so flexible that it can not carry the needle weight! I think it is why this kind of pine have twisted branches up and down, right to left!
I believe this pine is Aleppo as Greg mentioned. Few months ago, I visited Kim Bonsai nursery in Phelan, CA to ask him about Mr. Kim's pine. He used to have a giant pine with same characteristics as the pine in this topic when I came there about 5 years ago. That pine is gone (someone bought it). I asked him what the name of that pine. He told me it was Aleppo.
I googled about Aleppo and found out that it originated from Mediterranean. It has strong twist trunk and branches there. I hope someone from that area can post the pictures here.

I don't think it is Canary Island Pine. We have a lot Canary Island Pine in Southern California.
Again, thank you all.
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[Potawatomi13]

Aww come on bonhe we're all dying to know. What kind of tree guy can't jump a fence? Does it actually say no trespassing? What's the worst that could happen?

 

[bonhe]

Aww come on bonhe we're all dying to know. What kind of tree guy can't jump a fence? Does it actually say no trespassing? What's the worst that could happen?

Hahahaahaa . I know my limits. It is not worth to do that! ?
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[milehigh_7]

pinus eldarica or Mondell Pine is my guess. Aleppo has much shorter needles. Torrey Pines have VERY long thick needles BTW.


edit: apparently now they are called, Pinus brutia var. eldarica (which WGW already guessed...)

 

[bonhe]

pinus eldarica or Mondell Pine is my guess. Aleppo has much shorter needles. Torrey Pines have VERY long thick needles BTW.


edit: apparently now they are called, Pinus brutia var. eldarica (which WGW already guessed...)

Yes, it could be. I saw a lot of Mondel pine in my area, but I have not seen severely contorted branches on them on them!
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[ihaveaspaceship]

Aww come on bonhe we're all dying to know. What kind of tree guy can't jump a fence? Does it actually say no trespassing? What's the worst that could happen?

Living in Riverside? Could get shot at!

 

[milehigh_7]

Yes, it could be. I saw a lot of Mondel pine in my area, but I have not seen severely contorted branches on them on them!
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Both, Aleppo and Mondel are used extensively in Las Vegas so I got used to seeing them. Both seem to bud back very well and I have seen odd shapes in response to being "trimmed" by folks that clearly don't work on many pines.

 

[bonhe]

Both, Aleppo and Mondel are used extensively in Las Vegas so I got used to seeing them. Both seem to bud back very well and I have seen odd shapes in response to being "trimmed" by folks that clearly don't work on many pines.

Thank you. It is good to know.
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