What is this? Zelkova / Elm?

[minkes]

Hello! Can someone help me determine what kind of tree is in the picture? Is it possible that it is Zelkova? I found the seedling on the side of the path in the park.

 

[Shibui]

Pointed ends say Zelkova. Chinese elm leaves are more rounded and less serrated margins.

 

[minkes]

Thanks for confirmation. I need to visit that park again now to search for more seedlings

 

[Orion_metalhead]

Zelkova for sure.

 

[Mike Westervelt]

Zelkova and Katsura!

 

[minkes]

Zelkova and Katsura!

Thank you for identifing second seedling. I was thinking about making better photo of it for identification. So it is Katsura! I am thinking what will be Katsura better for - as bonsai or as decoration garden tree.

 

[Mike Westervelt]

I think cercidiphyllum japonicum make great bonsai, had one years ago and am growing a handful from seed currently.

 

[Animron]

It is not enough to say that it is Zelkova. It is necessary to find out which Zelkova this is: Caucasian (Carpinifolia), Japanese (Serrata), Chinese (Schneideriana/Sinica)...? It could be any of these three, although it most resembles the Japanese Zelkova, which is not 100% reliable. In any case, it is neither Cretan nor Sicilian Zelkova. It is also unlikely that it is a Chinese Zelkova, so it is either Japanese or Caucasian. In Europe, Caucasian is much more common, while in the USA, Japanese predominates, as far as I know.
The easiest way to reliably determine it is to find a mature tree nearby and compare the leaves, bark... With such young saplings, the determination is not the most reliable.

 

[minkes]

It is not enough to say that it is Zelkova. It is necessary to find out which Zelkova this is: Caucasian (Carpinifolia), Japanese (Serrata), Chinese (Schneideriana/Sinica)...? It could be any of these three, although it most resembles the Japanese Zelkova, which is not 100% reliable. In any case, it is neither Cretan nor Sicilian Zelkova. It is also unlikely that it is a Chinese Zelkova, so it is either Japanese or Caucasian. In Europe, Caucasian is much more common, while in the USA, Japanese predominates, as far as I know.
The easiest way to reliably determine it is to find a mature tree nearby and compare the leaves, bark... With such young saplings, the determination is not the most reliable.

In the future, when I go to the park again where I found this seedling, I will try to find the parent tree. There was also a name tag on some of the trees, so I will check to see if the exact name will be there. Maybe I'll find another seedling around the tree that I can save from the mower

 

[minkes]

I think cercidiphyllum japonicum make great bonsai, had one years ago and am growing a handful from seed currently.

So I went to the park again in the early Winter and collected seeds from Katsura tree (there were many many seeds inside the pods). Just out of curiosity i planted few of them to see, if they are viable and could strike. About 5 from 10 germinated and of course eventually died inside the house, but it was just for testing purpose. In spring I will try to germinate them outside. Also collected some japanese maple and zelkova seeds. Now I am looking forward for some spring fun with them. Hopefully they will germinate

 

[Tahoebonsai]

Hello! Can someone help me determine what kind of tree is in the picture? Is it possible that it is Zelkova? I found the seedling on the side of the path in the park.

The serrated edges determines it’s the serrata

 

[Melospiza]

Thank you for identifing second seedling. I was thinking about making better photo of it for identification. So it is Katsura! I am thinking what will be Katsura better for - as bonsai or as decoration garden tree.

I hope you get to enjoy the fragrance of the trees in autumn. They smell like toffee or chocolate when the leaves change colour.

 

[Tahoebonsai]

I’m looking forward to that as well I just got my first Katsura from Dylan’s and he was saying the scent they give off is like a syrup and from a proximity it’s harder to smell the closer you get

I hope you get to enjoy the fragrance of the trees in autumn. They smell like toffee or chocolate when the leaves change colour.

 

[minkes]

I hope you get to enjoy the fragrance of the trees in autumn. They smell like toffee or chocolate when the leaves change colour.

I’m looking forward to that as well I just got my first Katsura from Dylan’s and he was saying the scent they give off is like a syrup and from a proximity it’s harder to smell the closer you get

When I was at the park I felt that beautiful fragrance under the katsura trees. Hopefully I can get few more seedlings this season from the seeds I collected. When I saw this video I felt to be in love with this new kind of tree for me

 

[minkes]

Quick update

 

[minkes]

Straightened trunks, trimmed.. Aiming for hokidachi with these ones

 

[minkes]

Sharing some development of my zelkova seedlings