what kind of foemina?

[eferguson1974]

These are common shrubs that thicken up ok ,backbud, and habe interesting bark. For $2 I figured its worth it. It has smallish leaves, makes small white flowers then a green berry/fruit. Theyre tough and survive both wet and dry seasons.

 

[just.wing.it]

What does it taste like?

 

[petegreg]

Orange jasmine (Murraya paniculata)? White flowers smell like jasmine, fruit when rape is orange-red, leaves are compound with small leaflets...

 

[thumblessprimate1]

ripe* not rape

 

[petegreg]

Right, green/ripe, back to school!

 

[eferguson1974]

They seem to be ok for bonsai, tough, and they backbud it seems. I can post pics of a couple I chopped up, one with exposed roots. Cool bush for $2 each, good practice at least. I didnt taste them or notice a smell but there are flowers getting ready to open. The bark is craggy, nicely textured for a young plant. They dont seem upset about being chopped and repotted, root pruned or whatever. Ive had one a while and the cuttings stayed green a long time but didnt root. Thanks, I will smell the flowers when they open.

 

[michaelj]

Orange jasmine (Murraya paniculata)? White flowers smell like jasmine, fruit when rape is orange-red, leaves are compound with small leaflets...

Then I'm gonna guess that it's a citrus foemina.

 

[Anthony]

If these are truly - Murray p.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murraya_paniculata

They need ground to be ground grown for trunk size. Suggest colanders and open ground.
A favourite of the Chinese.
Wu Yee Sun had a stunner at 18" tall.

Easy to grow, not so easy to train into champions, try for at least 3" trunks.
We have them as hedges, and the scent is truly as the Chinese say ------------ 10 miles of perfume.

There is an exotica and a new variety with smaller leaves [ see Ausbonsai ]
Best of growing.
Good Day
Anthony

 

[eferguson1974]

Thanks guys. I can stick one in the ground, maybe one in a colander. Ive seen some in yards with 3"+ trunks that get cool fissures and texture. So one in my newly mostly done wicking beds. I need to find several trees similar enough for an experiment, to see whats best, the ground (the original), or a colander, or wicking bed, or aquaponics. This species could be perfect. I will have f ben in all four systems too. The new wb's soil is mixed commercial and local black dirt. I added carbon made for adding to soil, worm castings, and a mix of rice trash and other organics. It should be great for veggies and I hope trees like it too. Its all in my greenhouse, to have year round control of the water and be able to keep things all year. And of course it needs a few trees to test the system on them.

 

[eferguson1974]

I smashed a flower today from one of these and it really doesnt have a smell. Nothing jasmine like at least.

 

[petegreg]

Hm, have you tried to compare your plant to those from online sources? Better pictures might help.

 

[Alain]

Then I'm gonna guess that it's a citrus foemina.

Me too I'd say it's a citrus foemina.
I had an orange tree in my yard in Tucson, the flowers in particular, like in grape at the end of a pistil.
I don't know Murray P. but the pictures on the web and the drawing in the link above don't describe the flowers like that, on the contrary they look compact with a very short stem.
The leaves also look very similar in placement, the orange tree I had they had a certain brightness and texture but I can't see that on the picture and I don't know how to describe it in English

But I totally support @michaelj in the citrus foemina identification

 

[eferguson1974]

Ok so now a couple flowers opened up. That should narrow it right down. It looks like a citrus flower, but has no smell. When I asked for a name where I got them, I got that look that says "silly gringo", and they dont care much about naming shrubs. I hope these pics came out ok, theyre from my new phone. The flowers are about 3/4" across, more or less. The flower will produce a little red fruit maybe 3/8" long and 3/16" around. I forgot that detail before.

 

[petegreg]

Hm, last time I wanted to say the citrus flowers had their typical smell. What about the leaves, do they have some smell if torn? And what about the fruit?

 

[Alain]

Ok, so now that the flowers opened up they actually look like Murray p.

 

[eferguson1974]

While watering I noticed some fruit on some cuttings that dont look like they will live. Theyre more orange than red. Thats my dirty paw, which got that way enjoying my trees and plants. So I got that part right at least.. Btw no part of the plant smells, torn or smashed.Here are the fruits.
Maybe its not even a good species for bonsai. I have seen them growing as shrubs or bushes, and they seem to fatten up nice for their size. The flowers and fruits are perfectly sized for bonsai. So I will find out. Im not into showing my trees, and dont expect to have showable trees. This is about learning and my own journey for me anyway.
This species may not take to wkre well, and be better off with clip and grow, as an early observation.
Here are las frutitas, little fruit. I doubt its a citrus, it hasnt the smell and goes from flower to fruit much quicker. Do they help?

 

[petegreg]

OK, murraya has only one seed - a stone in fruit like a cherry fruit and it's bark is very pale, almost whitish. It can be fruiting and blooming at the same time...

...as you said it gets ripe very quickly, within weeks if not less. Wiring is better done with still green branches.

 

[Cypress187]

I noticed

You made those pictures with an Nokia 3210?

 

[eferguson1974]

You made those pictures with an Nokia 3210?

A $50 android!