What type of shimpaku juniper

[burakki]

I was in japan in january and bought a shohin size juniper from there. The seller said kinui toshu (shimpaku) for the type and said it was a valuable species. When I searched later, I could not find such a species. I wonder if I misunderstood or could it be kishu?

 

[Wires_Guy_wires]

My kishu have fairly thick 'ropes'. I think this is an itoigawa. But within the itoigawa there are multiple varieties, some have more attractive foliage than others. Most Europeans and Americans can't really tell the difference if they haven't seen the ones in Japan. Myself included; I've seen videos where people talked about a plant being a rare variety of itoigawa, but seeing the plants on the video didn't really make me think that it was anything different than what I have in the back yard.

 

[Zelrod]

I can't help with the Identification but it's a nice looking tree once it recovers from the snow and ice.

 

[shimbrypaku]

Hard to tell.
This is a few pictures of my itoigawa shimpaku

 

[shimbrypaku]

In my observation the foliage if finer on a itoigawa than a regular shimpaku or kishu.

Just my two cents

 

[shimbrypaku]

Sorry for the bad photos, I guess the temp change fogged the lens.

 

[burakki]

Kötü fotoğraflar için özür dilerim, sanırım sıcaklık değişikliği lensi buğulandırdı.

haklısın yarın daha iyi bir fotoğraf çekmeye çalışacağım

 

[Apex37]

@Brian Van Fleet has a helpful article listing out differences between shimpaku, itoigawa, and kishu junipers.

More on differences among Itoigawa, Kishu, and Shimpaku junipers

This is one topic that really intrigues me. Shimpaku has become a favorite bonsai subject, and as I work more with the different varieties, I’ll continue to share the subtle differences. From…

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[shimbrypaku]

Agree, Brian has a nice article.
My problem is I can’t tell the difference in between the kish and regular.

 

[shimbrypaku]

I guess my eyes are too old.

 

[burakki]

yes, the article is very good and I read it twice. Unfortunately, my juniper experience is not enough to distinguish it.

 

[shimbrypaku]

I have all three, and it’s difficult for me to determine the kishu from regular shimpaku, the tags are gone, my fault for not keeping better track.

 

[Brian Van Fleet]

Bark looks too red for Itoigawa, and the foliage seems looser like Kishu rather than Itoigawa, but it could be recent pruning.
In winter, my Kishu get more gray/blue and my Itoigawa get more bronze like yours.
Nice little tree regardless. Post an update shot when it’s growing and we can take another stab at it.

 

[burakki]

Thank you for your review. Today I reached the garden where I bought it in Japan. And I found out that it is Itoigawa kinuitoshyo.

 

[burakki]

https://www.google.co.jp/search?q=糸魚川真柏+絹糸性&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=ja-jp&client=safari

 

[burakki]

this is the search url in japan