While on an azalea dig I collected 3 exciting examples of this other species - anyone have an ID?

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Will create separate threads for each if they turn out to be interesting bonsai species or other things of note develop. But for now, does anyone have an ID and thoughts on whether they're worth keeping? Prrretty sure all 3 are same species but I've been wrong once or twice before :)

First 3 pics are from one specimen, next 3 from another, and last 4 are from a really neat example with vertical hollow running through it.
 

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Buds and new leaves look fuzzy like a type of viburnum, but not sure about the bark...
 

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I did a good bit of research on both and I'm not finding any leaf bud pics that look clearly like what I've got. Will update soon once everything opens up a bit more - it was still snowing in CT today so who knows when that'll be!
 

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Hard to tell what you have, my guesses include alder, witch hazel, american hazel, hornbeam, and Elaeagnus species of some sort. Possibly Rhamnus species - buckthorn. Need leaf pictures to go with bud pictures.

Russian Olive - make good bonsai - small, sweet smelling white flowers, blue-ish foliage, fast growing, and extremely cold hardy. Really rough bark on older trunks.

In fact most Elaeagnus make reasonable to good, sometimes great bonsai. By great I mean a few have been exhibited in top ranked bonsai shows in Japan. There it is usually Elaeagnus pungens or E. multiflora

Elaeagnus angustifolia - Russian olive - leaves are narrow, like a willow leaf. Very rough bark on wood older than 10 years.
E. umbellata - Autumn berry - fruit ripens September and hangs into October. Relatively smooth bark even on older wood.
E. multiflora - Autumn berry, or silverberry, - this one in Michigan fruit ripens in August - smooth bark, leaves are blue-ish, wider leaf than russian olive
E. pungens - Silverberry or Goumi berry - this one is only hardy through zone 7, maybe into 6b. Has the largest fruit. Grown as a specialty crop, a novel ''superfood''. Flowers in autumn, fruit ripens late spring or early summer after hanging all winter.
 

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The one I got Id'd as "hedge cotoneaster" has buds opening like that, same fuzzy leaf shape...
Leaning towards a "shrub" for sure.

Certainly not Rhamnus Cathartica, possibly Frangula but doubtful.

According to Leo's Elaeagnus notes....

Keep your fingers crossed its that!

Sorce
 

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To update the thread I think Leo's got it right! Looks to be to be some kind of Elaeagnus (5 species or so around here, I think these represent maybe 2 of them? But only managed to find pics of the one tree).

Check out the pics and let me know what you all think. Sounds like overall they are a do-able but not ideal type of tree for bonsai...
 

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