White Pine - Restyle

[dinh]

Well, I got this JWP two years ago as a gift from a friend, who is in Koi hobby and belong to the same koi club here in NorCal. I have not done much work on this except restyle in early spring during repot.

Here are few pictures before and after restyle. JWP1 is the original, JWP3 is the one after restyle early on. Any suggestion for improvemnet, please let me know.

Best,
--Dinh

 

[iant]

I like what you did. I like the first trunk section vertical (although I could also picture an angle between pic 2 and 3.) Looks like a beautiful old tree with very nice branch ramification.
Great!
Ian

 

[dinh]

I like what you did. I like the first trunk section vertical (although I could also picture an angle between pic 2 and 3.) Looks like a beautiful old tree with very nice branch ramification.
Great!
Ian

Thanks Ian. This is my first JWP and the only one I have....
I am in San Jose not far from where you are.... Hope to run into you sometime during the Bonsai shows around here in SF Bay Area.

--Dinh

 

[edprocoat]

Thats a nice tree, did you put it in that large pot to grow it our more, or maybe develop the roots more? They were pretty good looking roots judging by the before picture.

ed

 

[dinh]

Thats a nice tree, did you put it in that large pot to grow it our more, or maybe develop the roots more? They were pretty good looking roots judging by the before picture.

ed

You got it right Ed. When I first got it, the tree was not so healthy so I repot to put it in a large and deeper training pot for grow and healthier purposes.

Best,
--Dinh

 

[iant]

San Jose is close! If you don't mind my asking do you give it full sun or is it protected with shade cloth or morning sun only?
It looks like the base is JBP (or this is a really old JWP!) is the graft at the first turn?
Ian

 

[dinh]

San Jose is close! If you don't mind my asking do you give it full sun or is it protected with shade cloth or morning sun only?
It looks like the base is JBP (or this is a really old JWP!) is the graft at the first turn?
Ian

I give it full sun. My friends said it is an old JWP, but I wonder.

Best,
--Dinh

 

[JudyB]

Hi dinh, that is a nice looking JWP! I like the idea Ian has of something between the two angles. I wonder too if it's JBP stock, especially if it's been growing well in your climate, as JWP is a cooler climate tree. But when its JBP stock, I think that gives it more range for heat. Maybe you could photo the bark around the first branch, you'll usually see a change from rougher bark to smoother bark at the graft union. Either way, it's a very nice, you have a nice friend to give you such a tree.

 

[dinh]

Hi dinh, that is a nice looking JWP! I like the idea Ian has of something between the two angles. I wonder too if it's JBP stock, especially if it's been growing well in your climate, as JWP is a cooler climate tree. But when its JBP stock, I think that gives it more range for heat. Maybe you could photo the bark around the first branch, you'll usually see a change from rougher bark to smoother bark at the graft union. Either way, it's a very nice, you have a nice friend to give you such a tree.

Judy, You r right, I was told that our climate here in northern cali is very difficult to take care of the JWP, that why this is the only JWP I have. Here are two pictures for viewing the leaves and bark around the first branch

Best,
--Dinh

 

[tanlu]

Dinh,

That's a very nice tree you got there. It's a graft without question, as JWP simply don't have thick plated bark, even when they get old. Their bark becomes dark grey and scaly with age. I also don't think JWP (on their own roots) could survive the mild winters and hot summers of the West coast without ample shade in the summer and a large freezer to over winter it in.

T

 

[dinh]

Dinh,

That's a very nice tree you got there. It's a graft without question, as JWP simply don't have thick plated bark, even when they get old. Their bark becomes dark grey and scaly with age. I also don't think JWP (on their own roots) could survive the mild winters and hot summers of the West coast without ample shade in the summer and a large freezer to over winter it in.

T

Thank you Tan. So it is good to have it as graft pine for Northern California climate.

BTW, is this a graft JWP by looking at the bark?

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl...MTUNuUF4iUrAHWqIC4Ag&ved=0CGYQ9QEwBg&dur=3821

Thanks,
--Dinh

 

[Brian Van Fleet]

Thank you Tan. So it is good to have it as graft pine for Northern California climate.

BTW, is this a graft JWP by looking at the bark?

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl...MTUNuUF4iUrAHWqIC4Ag&ved=0CGYQ9QEwBg&dur=3821

Thanks,
--Dinh

Yes, the photo is a grafted white pine on black pine. Generically known as Miyajima. The needles are slightly coarser, some say it's the variety, and others say its because it's growing on a stronger root system.

It is not automatically bad to have a Miyajima...should do well in N. Cal. Most white pines are grafted to black pine stock, what makes it good or bad is the quality of the graft. The photo in your link shows a very obvious graft, done a very long time ago, and is simply the result of the stock outgrowing the scion (necking down). Yours appears to be well-concealed and smooth. In 50-100 years, it may start to show the necking down.

Nice pine, hope it thrives for you.

 

[dinh]

Yes, the photo is a grafted white pine on black pine. Generically known as Miyajima. The needles are slightly coarser, some say it's the variety, and others say its because it's growing on a stronger root system.

It is not automatically bad to have a Miyajima...should do well in N. Cal. Most white pines are grafted to black pine stock, what makes it good or bad is the quality of the graft. The photo in your link shows a very obvious graft, done a very long time ago, and is simply the result of the stock outgrowing the scion (necking down). Yours appears to be well-concealed and smooth. In 50-100 years, it may start to show the necking down.

Nice pine, hope it thrives for you.

Great input - Thank you.

--Dinh