Wisteria cuttings flowering

[Brandon Gilbert]

So I have some wisteria that I will be training in some totes for bonsai. The cutting I received were hardwood, I have a few setting in water and a few that are in some perilite. About three days ago the cuttings developed, at the time I thought, leafbuds. Now the growths are more prominent and are clearly flowers there are no leave buds on them. Should I pinch the flower stems off and see if they develop leaf buds or just let them run their course?

 

[Tentakelaertje]

Don't know if they'll make it when you pinch them off, but they certainly not gonna do stuff if you leave it on.
I hope they will survive, but...

clearly flowers there are no leave buds on them.

...does not predict much good. Good luck anyway!

 

[sorce]

Welcome to Crazy!

Sorce

 

[Cadillactaste]

I can say this...the flower buds will steal energy...and there is no roots to sustain them on stored energy. My thoughts only...

 

[0soyoung]

Wisteria chinensis or floribunda?
Floribunda first leafs are right behind the flower bract (i.e., part of the same bud if I'm not mistaken). I think your cuttings need to be in a (roomy) humidity tent or/and

Good luck anyway!

 

[Brandon Gilbert]

The cuttings I bought were chinensis. I can adjust them to a more roomier environment. If these don't work, I will accept my losses as a donation to the eBay seller. I can't really complain on it, the cuttings only cost me a couple bucks. Definitely going to keep working toward it.

 

[Tentakelaertje]

Aaaah, you bought 'em? Were they already rooted? If so, they might live if you remove the flower buds.

 

[Brandon Gilbert]

When I bought them they were just dead stick really. I have been trying to get them to root. I might pinch two of them off and see.

 

[sorce]

The cuttings I bought were chinensis. I can adjust them to a more roomier environment. If these don't work, I will accept my losses as a donation to the eBay seller. I can't really complain on it, the cuttings only cost me a couple bucks. Definitely going to keep working toward it.

If I tell you....someone here will Probly give you rooted cuttings for free.....

Will you make a donation to me?
I prefer PayPal and Priority shipping!

Lol....for real.....

Rooted cuttings. For free. Ask somebody!

Sorce

 

[Brandon Gilbert]

I didn't think I could ask that kind of stuff on here. I feel like a new kid at school for some reason, afraid to ask questions and all. Um, Sorce? How would you like your donation? Lol. Thank you all.

 

[barrosinc]

There is no way anyone would miss a small wisteria shoot...
Just look around your house and ask.

 

[0soyoung]

Buds crack, swell, and push out their contents by pumping up cells with water (by osmosis), regardless of whether it is a vegetative bud or a flowering bud (that morphed from a vegetative bud last fall). With any cutting, the only water that is available is in the cutting's wood, since it doesn't have any roots.

Roots will only develop if there is foliage (there are a few exceptions).

This is the catch twenty two with dormant cuttings.

One will enjoy much more success trying to root cuttings in leaf. Then one only needs to provide a humidity tent to reduce water loss through the leafs by transpiration (i.e., use a humidity tent).

 

[Brandon Gilbert]

Overall what actions should I do to hopefully get these sassy girls rooted?
Sassy girls being the cuttings.
I named one Sasha.

 

[barrosinc]

Buds crack, swell, and push out their contents by pumping up cells with water (by osmosis), regardless of whether it is a vegetative bud or a flowering bud (that morphed from a vegetative bud last fall). With any cutting, the only water that is available is in the cutting's wood, since it doesn't have any roots.

Roots will only develop if there is foliage (there are a few exceptions).

This is the catch twenty two with dormant cuttings.

One will enjoy much more success trying to root cuttings in leaf. Then one only needs to provide a humidity tent to reduce water loss through the leafs by transpiration (i.e., use a humidity tent).

only roots can push water? I thought cuttings could move a limited amount without them.

 

[Brandon Gilbert]

(Mei) (Sasha)
Ok so. I was looking at the bottoms of the cuttings and they have a lot of white bumps around the stem. Are these root formations?

 

[JudyB]

Brandon, I'm taking cuttings of wisteria floribunda for another member here in the spring and can take some for you if these fail. I'd just want you to pay actual postage to get them to you. You shouldn't worry about asking for stuff here...

 

[Brandon Gilbert]

That would be awesome! I would definitely pay postage. You guys are amazing.

 

[GrimLore]

Ok so. I was looking at the bottoms of the cuttings and they have a lot of white bumps around the stem. Are these root formations?

Looks to be BUT you cannot be successful unless you take them out of the water and plant them in perhaps a 50/50 mix of soil and sand, perlite or similar. They roots need to be able to grow, have access to air by draining, while still never going totally dry. Under water you would need an aerated, flushing, hydro system. Move them and leave the blooms alone after proper potting. If they do fail, I also have access to more as does Judy same deal.

Grimmy

 

[0soyoung]

only roots can push water? I thought cuttings could move a limited amount without them.

Even though it takes a few days to happen, one part of the damage response to pruning is that living cells (in the xylem) clog up or seal off the xylem near the cut. Unfortunately, it takes longer than just a few days to make roots. So, you are correct but .....

 

[0soyoung]

You guys are amazing.

Nah. Just Judy is.