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Ok, So I feel like I have a good plan of attack for some pretty nice parsons junipers that are in a lady's brick mail box planter(both sides of the mail box) Any advice will be appreciated. Here are my plans.

Temps this weekend should be in the low 70s.
1.) Arrive on site and assess if the planter has an open bottom or is bricked. If it is bricked then this will be a piece of cake(which I doubt it is)
2.) If it is open bottom I will assess the root system above grade to see if I can saw cut or prune away the roots that are below grade. By this I mean below the bottom of the planter and growing into the ground itself.
3.) After assessment if I feel the plants have a strong enough root system in the planter box itself I will prune away the rest of the roots.
4.) If not then I think my day will be a little longer and the customer may not be as open to me digging underneath the planter.
5.) I only live a couple miles away but should I wrap the root balls in something to protect them( plastic trash bag) from drying out.
6.) All foliage will be kept as that is where the strength of junipers come from.
7.) I will probably plant them both in the plastic concrete mixing tubs at 100 percent DE. (Don't have anything else readily available as a soil conditioner or adder.
8.) The trees will be kept in shade for this growing season to ensure it doesn't dry out.
9.) Should I bare root the trees at time of collection?

Anything else you think I should or should do? Thanks
 
Make it easier on yourself and take a sledge to the planter :p Honest sounds like you have it covered but do not forget to take some bags and a gallon or two of water. Don't let any of the collected roots dry.

Grimmy
 
Make it easier on yourself and take a sledge to the planter :p Honest sounds like you have it covered but do not forget to take some bags and a gallon or two of water. Don't let any of the collected roots dry.

Grimmy

Yea I wish I could sledge it. Problem is I'm not much of a finish mason so I don't think she would appreciate the brick rebuild. Haha. Sounds good I will take a 5 gallon bucket of water.
 
Here are some photos. Stopped by today to assess the situation before I go at it this weekend. It appears that it will be a lot more work than originally planned. If you note the planter is buried in the ground itself. I am thinking I will just cut a trench straight down from the edges of the planter. I am sure there is going to be a ton of roots that will make this a cumbersome project. Photos aren't the best but just so you have an idea of the material and situation
 

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Here is the other tree
 

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100% DE will retain a LOT of water. Can you pick up some chicken grit or perlite?

I don't have any experience with junipers (no interest) but I would keep as much of the root ball in tact as possible and reduce it over the next 1-2 years. You can bare root "zones" of the root ball during repotting if you are concerned.
 
100% DE will retain a LOT of water. Can you pick up some chicken grit or perlite?

I don't have any experience with junipers (no interest) but I would keep as much of the root ball in tact as possible and reduce it over the next 1-2 years. You can bare root "zones" of the root ball during repotting if you are concerned.

I actually have some perlite on hand that I can mix in with it. Chicken grit I can get as well since I have a feed store close to me.
 
100% DE will retain a LOT of water. Can you pick up some chicken grit or perlite?

While true, it is better to see the final size of the rootball and container you will eventually use before amending your DE. If it is shallow and small or have a perforated bottom like an Anderson flat...you might want to use straight DE.

Good luck collecting those. Seems very difficult w/o busting the planter walls. :eek:
 
Good luck collecting those. Seems very difficult w/o busting the planter walls. :eek:

Might want to drive a flat scraper or ice pick between the inner walls and the plants to help loosen them up a bit.

Grimmy
 
Might want to drive a flat scraper or ice pick between the inner walls and the plants to help loosen them up a bit.

Grimmy

That will help but the toughest part is cutting any roots that dove down...which is the most likely scenario.
 
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Yea I really hoping there will be a plethora of roots within the planter but I am definetly planning for the worst case
 
I would take a shovel with a strong straight blade to drive between the rootball and planter walls, also a long pruning saw. I'll bet they transplant well, not breaking the brickwork probably the biggest challenge for you. I would advise against bare rooting but try to loosen the perimeter at least for a good transition into new soil. I've had good results with junipers transplanted into granite grit and perlite.
 
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Yea I really hoping there will be a plethora of roots within the planter but I am definetly planning for the worst case

Even if that is the case....how will you cut the roots at the bottom? You will probably have to cut 2 diagonal cuts from the top of the brick wall. One from the left and another from the right forming a "V". Then you can pull the plant out. Whether you get sufficient roots this way is the question.

Your best bet is IF you can dig below one side of the brick wall and do a horizontal cut from there.
 
Even if that is the case....how will you cut the roots at the bottom? You will probably have to cut 2 diagonal cuts from the top of the brick wall. One from the left and another from the right forming a "V". Then you can pull the plant out. Whether you get sufficient roots this way is the question.

Your best bet is IF you can dig below one side of the brick wall and do a horizontal cut from there.

Hoist it up with a block and tackle perhaps?

Grimmy
 
Hoist it up with a block and tackle perhaps?

Grimmy
Might work but he might have to rebuild the entire thing after also! :eek:

Not sure about the laws in their area but here in TX, it is a Federal felony to damage a mailbox. Even replacing it is not as straight forward as you would think. I'd be very careful if laws are same as here.
 
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Even if that is the case....how will you cut the roots at the bottom? You will probably have to cut 2 diagonal cuts from the top of the brick wall. One from the left and another from the right forming a "V". Then you can pull the plant out. Whether you get sufficient roots this way is the question.

Your best bet is IF you can dig below one side of the brick wall and do a horizontal cut from there.

Dig a trench around the base of the planter. Use a saw or shears to cut roots at or below the bottom of the planter given situation with roots.
 
Even if that is the case....how will you cut the roots at the bottom? You will probably have to cut 2 diagonal cuts from the top of the brick wall. One from the left and another from the right forming a "V". Then you can pull the plant out. Whether you get sufficient roots this way is the question.

Your best bet is IF you can dig below one side of the brick wall and do a horizontal cut from there.

Didn't read all your post. That is exactly what I was going to do Dario. Though I feel like I might want to err on the side of caution and go as much lower as the bottom of the planter that I can.
 
Dig a trench around the base of the planter. Use a saw or shears to cut roots at or below the bottom of the planter given situation with roots.
That is what I meant by this.

Your best bet is IF you can dig below one side of the brick wall and do a horizontal cut from there.

Great if it is doable, that is your best bet IMHO. Good luck! :)
 
And add chopped onion :p

Sorry Dario, that will be my last time - just in an odd way today :P


Grimmy
 
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Might work but he might have to rebuild the entire thing after also! :eek:

Not sure about the laws in their area but here in TX, it is a Federal felony to damage a mailbox. Even replacing it is not as straight forward as you would think. I'd be very careful if laws are same as here.

Same as it is here. Though I will go slow because I definitely don't want to damage the structural integrity of the brick. The more I think about it, the more I feel that it is inevitable that the brick portion of the planters are going to get damaged when I undermine them. Concrete/Mortar has high compression strength but low tensile strength. One side starts to lose support and all the grout joints can end up cracking. Maybe a board under the undermined side to support is the answer. If it does fall apart I can re-mortar the bricks but it will be very slow going since I'm not the most talented mason. But I can handle a small job like brick planter and keep grout joints consistent. We shall see
 
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