Young material...but none the less Paul's Scarlett Hawthorn

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Looks healthy enough...got this from Brent. I can't do anything even slip pot it. So stuck it in a pot and filled arround it with pumice to keep it more secure from wind. In a month it said I could slip pot it I believe.

I ponder taking the long leader into a Cascade branch.
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It is quite young, you will have to thicken the trunk significantly. You can prepare it to become a cascade by angling the trunk and getting the roots pre-positioned to be a good cascade, but until you get the trunk diameter up to the caliper you want for the final tree, you probably should not pull any of the branches or the apex below horizontal or you will significantly slow down growth.
 

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It is quite young, you will have to thicken the trunk significantly. You can prepare it to become a cascade by angling the trunk and getting the roots pre-positioned to be a good cascade, but until you get the trunk diameter up to the caliper you want for the final tree, you probably should not pull any of the branches or the apex below horizontal or you will significantly slow down growth.
No doubt. My hawthorn has grown finger-thick primary branches over 20 years in a pot.
 

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It is quite young, you will have to thicken the trunk significantly. You can prepare it to become a cascade by angling the trunk and getting the roots pre-positioned to be a good cascade, but until you get the trunk diameter up to the caliper you want for the final tree, you probably should not pull any of the branches or the apex below horizontal or you will significantly slow down growth.
Good direction... thanks!
 

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Maybe prep the nebari first in a pot then ground grow if you have the space. They are angular growers so figure in some 3D movement when it gets to chop time. Is it from a cutting?
 

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Looks healthy enough...got this from Brent. I can't do anything even slip pot it. So stuck it in a pot and filled arround it with pumice to keep it more secure from wind. In a month it said I could slip pot it I believe.

I ponder taking the long leader into a Cascade branch.
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I am still trying to get cuttings from my yard tree.
I am going to try soon in an aeroponic cloner after I see the results of some other trees.
Leaders grow like crazy on these.
 

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Maybe prep the nebari first in a pot then ground grow if you have the space. They are angular growers so figure in some 3D movement when it gets to chop time. Is it from a cutting?
Actually, I just checked zone and I could set this in the ground. Angular growers...I'm sorry, ,my mind isn't grasping your meaning.

Edit, yes a young cutting which is why it can't be messed with yet.
 

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Actually, I just checked zone and I could set this in the ground. Angular growers...I'm sorry, ,my mind isn't grasping your meaning.

Edit, yes a young cutting which is why it can't be messed with yet.
It just means Paul's Scarlet does not grow in a manner that lends itself to curves - abrupt changes of angle. So if you are wanting a more feminine trunk line then wiring in some 3D bends early on (left, right, front, back) is the way to go.
 

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It just means Paul's Scarlet does not grow in a manner that lends itself to curves - abrupt changes of angle. So if you are wanting a more feminine trunk line then wiring in some 3D bends early on (left, right, front, back) is the way to go.
Thanks...will take that into consideration. Rethinking things. Will up pot it when safe...winter in green house...and come spring, ground grow this. I have the space. It's also zoned to my climate so no reason not to.
 

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Thanks...will take that into consideration. Rethinking things. Will up pot it when safe...winter in green house...and come spring, ground grow this. I have the space. It's also zoned to my climate so no reason not to.
And when you pot it, don’t just stick it in the ground, plant it at an angle, so that the trunk emerges from the ground at an angle. Then, you can wire curves into it.
 

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And when you pot it, don’t just stick it in the ground, plant it at an angle, so that the trunk emerges from the ground at an angle. Then, you can wire curves into it.
Good point there Adair...Thanks! Pondering planting at an angle and doing a semi-cascade. Keeping everything above the rim. But...Honestly, will let the tree do the whispering in my ear.
 

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