My first RED CHOJUBAI

[Zac]

Hi this is my first chojubai. So it's going to be a learning experience. I got it Friday from Left coast bonsai. It lost allot of its leaves and allot more started yellowing and it dried out during shipment across the U.S. it's a 4 year old rooted cutting supposedly from a tree that was started from a cutting from one of Michael Hagedorn's trees. I hope it survives! I'm starting this thread to hopefully get advise and suggestions (I did research the spices before I purchased it but can never have to much advise). Also hope to document the progression of this tree. I'm not sure what direction I'll take it but want to see if it'll survive first. Any advise or suggestion for care or design will be appreciated.
Thanks
Zac

 

[SeanS]

At this point just try get it healthy again and keep it alive.
Give it water, give it some sun (once it’s received from shipping), and give it some time

 

[NeedlesAndLeaves]

Michael Hagedorn has a view articles on Chojubai on this site:

How To Develop A Chojubai-

Last week I was flipping back and forth between old photos and newer ones to see how a Dwarf Flowering Quince ‘Chojubai’ bonsai has changed. Just to take six years in the life of this o…

crataegus.com

 

[Zac]

Michael Hagedorn has a view articles on Chojubai on this site:

How To Develop A Chojubai-

Last week I was flipping back and forth between old photos and newer ones to see how a Dwarf Flowering Quince ‘Chojubai’ bonsai has changed. Just to take six years in the life of this o…

crataegus.com

Yes thank you I've read his articles. Most things I've found are for more developed trees not working with young material. I've read all the threads on hear about them also least the ones I found.
Thanks
Zac

 

[Deep Sea Diver]

Yes thank you I've read his articles. Most things I've found are for more developed trees not working with young material. I've read all the threads on hear about them also least the ones I found.
Thanks
Zac

Congrats! Guess you got this cultivar down?

We often propagate small Chojubai and other quinces here. Once settled in a decent training pot, think about trimming 3-4” of foliage off the long branch (in fact we’d trim most of it off) and propagate more.

They are easy to strike and fun to grow out. They love sun, moisture and good ferts.

Cheers
DSD sends

 

[Zac]

Congrats! Guess you got this cultivar down?

We often propagate small Chojubai and other quinces here. Once settled in a decent training pot, think about trimming 3-4” of foliage off the long branch (in fact we’d trim most of it off) and propagate more.

They are easy to strike and fun to grow out. They love sun, moisture and good ferts.

Cheers
DSD sends

Thank you. No I don't have this cultivar down. Reading info and actually doing is way different . Yes after I make sure it's going to survive I was thinking of cutting that long branch off completely if it starts back budding. I watered it and have in morning to midday sun then partial shade. I haven't fertilized it yet since its so stressed. It seemed like a neat cultivar thats why I decided to buy one. I just hope it survives and I can keep it happy and alive in my area zone 6-7.
Thanks
Zac

 

[Zac]

So seams it's done dropping leaves and I see at least 2 new buds. Leaves still kinda yellow but thinking it's coming around. Here's more pictures taken today from multiple angles. It was raining again so had to take pics on carport again.
I'll give it a couple more weeks to be sure it'll survive then I'll have to start thinking of design and next steps I'll take. I don't like how straight the branches are.

 

[JoeR]

In my experience their roots do NOT like being hot. Also, they are heavy feeders, so I would apply a constant supply of organic fertilizer. Biogold is expensive but worth it IMO. Normal to lose leaves during summer heat

 

[Zac]

In my experience their roots do NOT like being hot. Also, they are heavy feeders, so I would apply a constant supply of organic fertilizer. Biogold is expensive but worth it IMO. Normal to lose leaves during summer heat

Ok thank you I did not know about the roots not liking being hot. I'll have to paint the pot white or move to a different pot I've been looking at training pots. I have Miracle-Gro slow release in there now I've never bought any of the bio gold since it's so expensive. I've tried other organic fertilizers but seams the dogs and birds and chipmunk like it more then the trees .

 

[Deep Sea Diver]

Hmm. Michael H mentioned chojubai likes heat. All our 12 plus many starts of different quinces including Chojubai and Toyo Nishiki are in the 3/4 sun here. But these are watered well.

Perhaps excessive heat is what you referred to? Like over 95 F perhaps? Or likely we have overall more moderate weather?

Biogold will work well, yet we rarely use it as it tends to gunk up the media surface. We merely moss in the surface and use Osmocote plus on the Chojubai. Maybe the moss is the difference?

In our area these plants rarely lose leaves in summer. They are pruned at least 3x year, but the extra prune is likely due to being cold greenhoused…

But play it safe your first year. Be sure to take cuttings. The more plants of one species one has (If one pays attention) the quicker one gets to know them,

Cheers
DSD sends

 

[Zac]

Mine lost its leaves during shipping. It's been a week and I've noticed some new buds getting ready to open. The weather here has been weird 60's one week then upper 80's the next and has been raining almost every day for last week or so. Yeah I've read that they need protection under 30-50% shade cloth when temps reach 95°+. Thanks for the info
Thanks
Zac