All aboard the Mugo train!

I've seen that stuff!
The name of my town is pronounced my o.
I think that stuff is me o.
Pretty cool Sorce!

Lol that's the last I need to hear about your O!

Good to know, if I come out there and the guy behind the counter at the motel says, welcome to MY O, after a slight pause, I might freak out and run away! Especially if he's making a funny face!

Sorce
 
People with no Avatars hate me!
Lol.
Interesting!

Sorce
 
Would it be possible for you to rotate the tree in a to the left about 45*? You don't want to do anything now but there is nothing wrong with contemplating things to come. Take notes because you may not remember what revelation came to you next year when it becomes time to do something with them.

The first tree is going to have to have one of the major lower branches removed. I can see reasons for one or the other to go depending on the styling you have in mind. Remember here. Don't go through the style by the number books but think tree Daniel San. I know that's corny but it is true. If you have watched my videos from this last year you know that I do my work from the ground up. I examine the trunk and then I look the branches to see how they all work together to create something that pleases me.

As to those two branches; lets look at the options and the problems. As the tree stands now without changing the trunk the first branch on the left occupies an inside curve and as such should be removed. (don't do this.) This shows you how the rules can screw you up. The first branch on the right is almost as large as the trunk above and below it and it does not have much in the way of secondary branches that you can utilize to shorten the branch. Therefor it should be removed;---- technically. Here again; don't let the rules screw you up. Just use the rules to consider what you see. You might get it to back bud but it will always have a girth that is too large for the rest of the tree. So what to do???

What I would do, or at least consider, is losing that branch on the right in either case. I would then apply some heavy wire over a rafia layer on the trunk to preserve the trunk. I would bend the entire trunk down to the right making that first branch on the left more dominant to the design. It is also possible to slice the trunk on the inside curve and using a guide wire to tork it down. This can only be done in June when the tree is really active. Depending on how this looks and the other branches on that limb, I may consider regrowing the entire tree from that one branch. BUT do not do all of this, all at once.

Remove the right branch and wire down the trunk this next year. Give that branch (the little one on the left on the inside of the curve) time to really start pumping, then decide if you want to remove the rest of the tree above that branch. All of a sudden that dead trunk takes on new and beautiful significance. What was once a branch that by the rules should be removed becomes the new apes and rest of the tree. This is the way it is with Mugos. Sometimes the design boils down to removing a lot of growth and leaving what is artistically pleasing. This tree could be a show stopper.
 
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Would it be possible for you to rotate the tree in a to the left about 45*? You don't want to do anything now but there is nothing wrong with contemplating things to come. Take notes because you may not remember what revelation came to you next year when it becomes time to do something with them.

The first tree is going to have to have one of the major lower branches removed. I can see reasons for one or the other to go depending on the styling you have in mind. Remember here. Don't go through the style by the number books but think tree Daniel San. I know that's corny but it is true. If you have watched my videos from this last year you know that I do my work from the ground up. I examine the trunk and then I look the branches to see how they all work together to create something that pleases me.

As to those two branches; lets look at the options and the problems. As the tree stands now without changing the trunk the first branch on the left occupies an inside curve and as such should be removed. (don't do this.) This shows you how the rules can screw you up. The first branch on the right is almost as large as the trunk above and below it and it does not have much in the way of secondary branches that you can utilize to shorten the branch. Therefor it should be removed;---- technically. Here again; don't let the rules screw you up. Just use the rules to consider what you see. You might get it to back bud but it will always have a girth that is too large for the rest of the tree. So what to do???

What I would do, or at least consider, is losing that branch on the right in either case. I would then apply some heavy wire over a rafia layer on the trunk to preserve the trunk. I would bend the entire trunk down to the right making that first branch on the left more dominant to the design. It is also possible to slice the trunk on the inside curve and using a guide wire to tork it down. This can only be done in June when the tree is really active. Depending on how this looks and the other branches on that limb, I may consider regrowing the entire tree from that one branch. BUT do not do all of this, all at once.

Remove the right branch and wire down the trunk this next year. Give that branch (the little one on the left on the inside of the curve) time to really start pumping, then decide if you want to remove the rest of the tree above that branch. All of a sudden that dead trunk takes on new and beautiful significance. What was once a branch that by the rules should be removed becomes the new apes and rest of the tree. This is the way it is with Mugos. Sometimes the design boils down to removing a lot of growth and leaving what is artistically pleasing. This tree could be a show stopper.
Thanks Vance! I appreciate your advice, and I like your ideas. I'll rotate it and take more pics later today.
 
I think this other tree can be reduced drastically as well but it will take a couple of years. That is of course the beauty of Mugos. You go trunk hunting and once finding good trunks you start selecting branches to keep and branches to remove. It's a ton of fun.
 
I think this other tree can be reduced drastically as well but it will take a couple of years. That is of course the beauty of Mugos. You go trunk hunting and once finding good trunks you start selecting branches to keep and branches to remove. It's a ton of fun.
Absolutely!
 
Vacant seats on Mugo train, some passengers get of the train in Bonsai Paradise City.
7 out the group of 10.
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Thought it was needle cast in beginning, treated with insecticides, but turn out to be much worse stuff.
Went with some needles to horticultural institute. Result, Lophodermium pinastri- specialist in mugos and scots pines.
Weak results in applying fungicides when developed,only preventive. They must have had them in nursery already.
Hot summer prevented them in development, now they caused demise in 15 days to 7 trees, of course the biggest ones.
 
My condolences as well. Thank you for finding out what happened and now I know something I did not know. Thank you very much.

I am assuming that you lost both trees?
 
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I am assuming that you lost both trees?[/QUOTE]

More, Vance, more, it hurts even to think about it, so far 4 and I think 2 more to go (half green, half brown at the moment)
Thank you all for your sympathy. Learned a lot out of this,that's a good side of it.

But dammn I Won't give up. Rejoining mugo party -za2.gif DJ Vance.

New kids on the block
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A close up

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While cleaning some dry twigs, peeled of by accident some green spots, I believe those are some adventitious buds
,that Vance has often mentioned. Hard to see on photo but there is a hint of green inside.

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NO SURPRISES THIS TIME. All flooded with cooper based fungicide and on isolated location.
 
got some time on the old desktop....

Figured Id revive this thread rather than Minus Pugo.

SORRY FOR THE BLURRYNESS,
Toot tOOT!
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Thats a beaver dam there, complete with whittled ends, the size of toothpicks.

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Skatepark.

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Shittily Weathered station.

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still incomplete.....but model railroading kind of mimics bonsai in that way,, never really complete...always more......bigger.......err....

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2x4 this is pre- water, fisherman, bears, wish I had a few more later shots....

Later.

Sorce
 
I am assuming that you lost both trees?

More, Vance, more, it hurts even to think about it, so far 4 and I think 2 more to go (half green, half brown at the moment)
Thank you all for your sympathy. Learned a lot out of this,that's a good side of it.

But dammn I Won't give up. Rejoining mugo party -View attachment 86034 DJ Vance.

New kids on the block
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A close up

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While cleaning some dry twigs, peeled of by accident some green spots, I believe those are some adventitious buds
,that Vance has often mentioned. Hard to see on photo but there is a hint of green inside.

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NO SURPRISES THIS TIME. All flooded with cooper based fungicide and on isolated location.[/QUOTE]
I do not understand why you are losing trees. They are native to your environment after all.
 
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