Toyo Nishiki Survivor

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I would like to see them. This one looks great.

 

[thumblessprimate1]

I would like to see them. This one looks great.

Thank you, Al. I've posted this one once elsewhere, but here it is from this morning. It's furthest along that I started in 2016, a root cutting planted in an 8" pot. Others are still like toothpicks in pots.



I would like more quince root cuttings in the future. This will be mame or shohin.

The rock is decent. I would've liked a taller and more interesting rock, but I'll try to make up for it in the future with the tree .

Here it is at the start.

 

[thumblessprimate1]

I would like to have wired sooner. It was so thick with leaves. It's shed a lot by now from summer. The thorns pierced into my fingers more than once. Fortunately, it was not too painful.

 

[GrimLore]

It was so thick with leaves. It's shed a lot by now from summer.

Nice and healthy! Looks to me you have had good progress as well. It seems my clump has suffered a bit from are very hot Spring and Summer. Many of the leafs turn brown at the tips but it continues to throw new ones so I have not been concerned.

Grimmy

 

[armetisius]

Mine make those odd little round leaves too- whats up with that?

Stipules and stipels:
Given their growing season begins when other stuff hasn't
swelled quite yet it only makes sense. Nothing sends its
children out without their hats. A lot more common on
plants than you realize and they do take a wide variety
of forms on the different species that have them. Here
is a link that more fully discusses them.
http://www.botgard.ucla.edu/html/bo...tany/shootfeatures/generalstructure/stipules/

Thanks, Eric. I have made tight bends in the past, but then I relaxed them a lot. . . so I went with less agressive bends. . .

Just remember that anything less than 90 degree bend is going to smooth
itself out a good bit as it grows. Want a nice 45 in 5 years? Better "set" it at
60 degrees now.
Just been my observation on the matter.

 

[bonhe]

Hi thumblessprimate1
You have a really nice flowering quince! I can not wait to see it in flowers.
Bonhe

 

[thumblessprimate1]

Nice and healthy! Looks to me you have had good progress as well. It seems my clump has suffered a bit from are very hot Spring and Summer. Many of the leafs turn brown at the tips but it continues to throw new ones so I have not been concerned.

Grimmy

Many of my leaves were the same. Many will turn yellow and fall off, but they'll be replaced.

 

[thumblessprimate1]

Just remember that anything less than 90 degree bend is going to smooth
itself out a good bit as it grows. Want a nice 45 in 5 years? Better "set" it at
60 degrees now.
Just been my observation on the matter.

You may be correct. I won't mind if the bends become milder with time. I think it'll be more natural with more dramatic bends on younger growith on the exterior.

 

[thumblessprimate1]

Hi thumblessprimate1
You have a really nice flowering quince! I can not wait to see it in flowers.
Bonhe

It'll be interesting to see flowers. I was wondering if because of my long growing season, I might still be able to prune a second time and still have flowers next year.

I selectively pruned branches back to two nodes to develop secondary and tertiary branches after the flowers were done. Let it grow branches to semi-hard and pruned the back still early in spring. Resulted in lots more branches.

I also wanted to see if by exhausting it's energy on the first flush of growth, I could get shorter nodes. They might be compact, but not as short as I'd hoped for. Either way, I'll continue to cut back to two nodes after flower drop each year from here on.

 

[GrimLore]

Many of my leaves were the same. Many will turn yellow and fall off, but they'll be replaced.

I moved mine from full sun in early Spring to late afternoon sun and trimmed off the leggy new growth. It still has some browning but appears to be doing a lot better. It has been a LOT hotter then normal here and man I respect and appreciate the extra work all do in the southern states to keep plants healthy

Grimmy

 

[thumblessprimate1]

Let me know how you do with flowers. I leave the leggy growth on until I have flower buds.

I'm keeping this one in full sun all year round. Started doing this this year. It'll still shed leaves, but will be fine as long as it gets watered enough. Used to move to shade in summer, but with a nice layer of akadama seems to stay hydrated enough with watering just once daily in its current pot. Note, the colander I used to use for this quince were small too.

 

[GrimLore]

Let me know how you do with flowers. I leave the leggy growth on until I have flower buds.

I'm keeping this one in full sun all year round. Started doing this this year. It'll still shed leaves, but will be fine as long as it gets watered enough. Used to move to shade in summer, but with a nice layer of akadama seems to stay hydrated enough with watering just once daily in its current pot. Note, the colander I used to use for this quince were small too.

Good info! And I will update you when it flowers. I am going with they bud on old wood similar to the other Quince so I expect Spring buds. Now to wait and see if this type does the same

Grimmy

 

[thumblessprimate1]

Just notes me thinking to myself, but feel free to read my thoughts and critique.

Two of the first chops have almost completely closed up. The last one, the largest of one scar tissue is just starting to move. I just started doing the proper wound treatment of it last year when I finally purchased my first bonsai tools. I bought a nice pair of Kaneshin concave cutters and branch cutters.

Also, I'm getting the feel for how this Japanese quince grows and doesn't want to grow. Likes to grow balanced sideways instead of upward. I know you could read this in literature, but to experience this and give it the proper response in practice is another thing. So sort of a problem that I'm having is getting the trunks to thicken up more than the branches. If things continue the way they are, I think all the branches and trunks will be of similar size. I desire more variation.

I have one branch that is going to surpass if it hasn't already the size of a branch at the apex intended to be a segment of the trunk. Three things I'll do. One, I'll either reduce the number of secondary branches on the strong branch or do a severe chop on it after flower drops next year. Secondly, absolutely remove any buds that would form suckers from the trunk to try to encourage the development of the three main trunks. At the present, there are some suckers that I ought to completely remove and not allow to grow back. When I'm satisfied with the size of those trunks, I could allow some suckers to grow. The suckers grow very quickly anyways. I originally left some of the suckers grow so that the roots near the base would thicken helping the base to expand. At least that was my reasoning. Finally, after flower drop I cut branches to two nodes except for the ones forming the the three main trunks.

 

[bonhe]

It'll be interesting to see flowers. I was wondering if because of my long growing season, I might still be able to prune a second time and still have flowers next year.
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I recognize quince has flower on the two year old woods. So, you have plenty of time to prune the shoot back to 1 or 2 leaves.
Bonhe

 

[thumblessprimate1]

Cool weather. High 60s*F.
Nice to sit outside and do some work. The flower buds swelling on this quince.

 

[thumblessprimate1]

I reduced branches, shortened some, and removed others. Removed some wire and added some wiring. Just trying to practice bonsai better each time.

 

[BonsaiButler]

Nice job! Coming along very nicely

 

[thumblessprimate1]

One of the pleasant things about working to improve your tree each year is to view it maturing and moving forward.
Some progression photos.

2014 to 2016

2015 to 2016

2014 to 2016

 

[fredtruck]

I like the way you embed pics from the past into the latest photo. Nice work.

 

[namnhi]

TP,
This one is a show stopper. It only took you 2 years to make it look that great. Well done my friend.