Decandling JBP question

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So I have two JBP at different stages and I'm wondering if I should decandle. The first is obviously a much stouter tree with only 1 candle over an inch at the top of the tree, should I decandle at this time(I read in my local Dallas bonsai society, that Nov is the time).

The second tree is obviously a much younger tree(koto buki I believe), should I just let it grow to bulk up(I want it to get bigger) or do I still need to decandle any over an inch? There are quite a few candles.

Again, thanks so much for the input, this board is awesome.
 

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This is NOT the time of year to decandle!!!

That's done in late June in Dallas, TX.

IFthe tree had been decandled last June, and IF there are multiple excess new shoots (more than 2), and IF you want to increase ramification, THEN you would thin shoots down to 2.

I don't think your tree is ready for that.

I highly recommend you take a JBP class from the Smiths. Www.bonsaismiths.net.
 
This is NOT the time of year to decandle!!!

That's done in late June in Dallas, TX.

IFthe tree had been decandled last June, and IF there are multiple excess new shoots (more than 2), and IF you want to increase ramification, THEN you would thin shoots down to 2.

I don't think your tree is ready for that.

I highly recommend you take a JBP class from the Smiths. Www.bonsaismiths.net.
Yeah, I've been thinking about signing up. Have you been?
 
No. I know them. They studied with Boon. Experts with JBP.
 
They should be having one on JBP right about now!

This is the time for fall work.

Late winter is best for repotting.

Early to mid summer for decandling.

They hold classes for JBP to correspond with the season.
 
I've been reading a lot about pines lately, and I finally ordered one from Muranaka today, but I'm still having a hard time understanding one concept. What do you do when you're finished developing a branch? If you don't want it to extend anymore, do you simply remove all new buds? It seems like that wouldn't be healthy. If a pine is "finished" but keeps growing, do you eventually just cut back and redevelop the branches? That would be good for taper I guess.
 
I've been reading a lot about pines lately, and I finally ordered one from Muranaka today, but I'm still having a hard time understanding one concept. What do you do when you're finished developing a branch? If you don't want it to extend anymore, do you simply remove all new buds? It seems like that wouldn't be healthy. If a pine is "finished" but keeps growing, do you eventually just cut back and redevelop the branches? That would be good for taper I guess.
Exactly! Once a tree is in refinement, you decandle every year to cause 1. A second flush of growth 2. Shorter internodes and needles and 3.develop ramification. At a certain point the canopy will begin to get to large and out of scale, so you cut back to a secondary branch and "restyle", or basically, put everything back how it was a few years back.

@Adair M is a great source for pine info.

Aaron
 
Exactly! Once a tree is in refinement, you decandle every year to cause 1. A second flush of growth 2. Shorter internodes and needles and 3.develop ramification. At a certain point the canopy will begin to get to large and out of scale, so you cut back to a secondary branch and "restyle", or basically, put everything back how it was a few years back.

@Adair M is a great source for pine info.

Aaron

Okay! That makes a lot of sense. Thank you.
 
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