jkd2572
Masterpiece
Look at this soil Al found. Anybody using this?
http://bonsaial.wordpress.com/2013/02/05/i-found-the-holy-grail/#comments
http://bonsaial.wordpress.com/2013/02/05/i-found-the-holy-grail/#comments
Grow stone
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berobinson82
Omono
So smoke,
Will you be so kind as to enlighten us with your initial impression? I've already contacted them to see if they ship seeing as there is nothing on the east coast yet.
I hope beyond hopes that you recant your statement of:
"Nothing...I repeat nothing takes the place of akadama. Akadama is something that has no equal, there is no substitute."
Maybe the holy grail can dethrown the king...
Will you be so kind as to enlighten us with your initial impression? I've already contacted them to see if they ship seeing as there is nothing on the east coast yet.
I hope beyond hopes that you recant your statement of:
"Nothing...I repeat nothing takes the place of akadama. Akadama is something that has no equal, there is no substitute."
Maybe the holy grail can dethrown the king...
jkd2572
Masterpiece
I just ordered some online to check out. Just google "buy growstone". Multiple sellers.
Poink88
Imperial Masterpiece
Walmart seems to carry it (at least online).
I checked Austin TX dealers and found 4.
I just might give this a try.
I checked Austin TX dealers and found 4.
I just might give this a try.RichKid
Shohin
I've noticed some places that retail it here in the Mid Atlantic if you're interested. Maybe they will ship. Check under PA and NJ
RichKid
Shohin
What would you mix with this to make a decent soil? I know everyone has their own preferences but I'm just wondering what component would we be looking to replace with this? Turface or Granite? Or their respective counterparts etc etc
berobinson82
Omono
Walmart seems to carry it (at least online).
I checked Austin TX dealers and found 4.
I don't see the Super Soil Aerator. Just the Substrate Media. I wonder the difference. Let me know.
rockm
Spuds Moyogi
The store locator says "Lucky Roots" on Shepard St. in Richmond has it. The site, however, is "under construction." Lucky roots is a hydroponic supplier and given its location, I'd say its regular customers probably ain't growin' tomatoes...
berobinson82
Omono
The store locator says "Lucky Roots" on Shepard St. in Richmond has it. The site, however, is "under construction." Lucky roots is a hydroponic supplier and given its location, I'd say its regular customers probably ain't growin' tomatoes...
I just called about half hour ago at the recommendation of a friend from the club. That lovely hippie lady didn't know WHAT was going on. She was easily amused though. She said they mostly carry Hydroton. I searched that on this forum and found the quote I copy-pasta'd above. But since she has a catalogue and said she'd order for me, I promised a visit. I must say rockm, you've been very active/helpful of late. Thank you.
jkd2572
Masterpiece
This would hopefully replace expensive akadama, which is very water retentive amd allows great aireation of the soil. Some people think its great, but it has to be imported from Japan and this makes it costly.
RichKid
Shohin
Walmart seems to carry it (at least online).
I checked Austin TX dealers and found 4.
I googled but didnt find it associated with walmart
jkd2572
Masterpiece
Here is where I ordered a bag to test.
http://www.rvfgardensupply.com/cgi/display.cgi?item_num=714232&gclid=CLCMsrTcorUCFdSLPAod5g8Agg
http://www.rvfgardensupply.com/cgi/display.cgi?item_num=714232&gclid=CLCMsrTcorUCFdSLPAod5g8Agg
rockm
Spuds Moyogi
"I just called about half hour ago at the recommendation of a friend from the club. That lovely hippie lady didn't know WHAT was going on. She was easily amused though. She said they mostly carry Hydroton. I searched that on this forum and found the quote I copy-pasta'd above. But since she has a catalogue and said she'd order for me, I promised a visit"
Hippie chick at a hydro store, go figure
I may have to talk to said chick to order some for me.
As for being helpful, well, don't tell the wife...she has a list of "helpful" stuff I have to do around the house.
Hippie chick at a hydro store, go figure
I may have to talk to said chick to order some for me.
As for being helpful, well, don't tell the wife...she has a list of "helpful" stuff I have to do around the house.
coh
Imperial Masterpiece
Local hydro shop carries some growstone products, but not the aerator. They can order it, a 2 cu ft bag is $38. This is the same price I saw listed on another website. That's quite a bit different than the "$17 for 3 cu ft" price quoted on the bonsaial blog. Has anyone found prices like that? I'd consider trying it, but don't want to pay twice as much as necessary.
Chris
Chris
Smoke
Ignore-Amus
I will let you know some time next year after a season.
This is not a substitute for akadama. This is just one more fairly easily attained (due to where its sold) substrates that will work for people having a hard time finding suitable soil components.
The aerator is the smaller medium. The substrate medium is about 1" to 1 1/4", pretty large for a soil medium.
I have addressed you questions on my blog with an update. You need the aerator.
BTW, I'm still buyin akadama for 20.00 a bag here in California. Plenty here.
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coh
Imperial Masterpiece
Thanks for the additional info. As you note, that bag is 1 cubic foot (1 ft x 1 ft x 1 ft). The price is in line with what I've seen on a few web sites.
I do like the larger particle size, think I'll acquire some to test.
I do like the larger particle size, think I'll acquire some to test.
buddhamonk
Chumono
I see this as a good alternative to lava or pumice but wouldn't consider it as an alternative to akadama unless it has a good CEC, retains water and breaks down over time...
Smoke
Ignore-Amus
This is pumice. Made in exactly the same way only in a factory and not in a volcano. Just the foam on molten glass.
Has no CEC and is "NOT" a substitute for akadama. There is no substitute for akadama. Just a browner version of the pumice everyone gets in a bag of drystall. Put them on a paperplate and you can't tell them apart except for color.
Smoke
Ignore-Amus
Check out the video. I am using the aerator size, which he shows mixed with cocoa coir for a soil medium.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUPsIpd9TmQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUPsIpd9TmQ
buddhamonk
Chumono
One component i am planning to use this is diatomite ( in place of akadama in my boon mix) it has a CEC as close to akadama. It has good water retention. However the pH is around 8 as opposed to akadama being neutral. I only wanted to clarify growstone is not a good substitute for akadama because other in this thread have been suggesting it.
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