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I'm starting to learn that. Have you posted any pictures of those you mentioned?This is my strategy with my DAS. The branches are too long, so I'm attempting to push them back over several years of pinching new growth to encourage older buds to activate. I've been working on my Italian Stone Pine very slowly, allowing a full year or so after any major work. It's taking a long time but my vision is starting to materialize. Some species just require a ton of patience and following a long term plan.