NPK RAW FERTILIZER

[Greenpoint Vince]

Hey there,

Quick question about NPK RAW fertilizer. Anybody out there using it and happy with the results. Picture attached has the ingredients. Does anyone see anything that I should be cautious about. Would be starting with the bloom for the fall and then switch to grow in the spring.

Thanks in advance for any help.

Vince

 

[Paradox]

I have never seen nor heard of this fertilizer before honestly.
There is nothing on that package that would give me pause.
Just so you know the practice of giving low nitrogen fertilizer in the fall has been pretty much debunked by now.

 

[RJG2]

@cmeg1 is a big advocate of many NPK products - not sure if he's used the regular fertilizer though.

Agreed with @Paradox though, nothing wrong with the ingredients.

 

[Deleted member 47471]

Hey there,

Quick question about NPK RAW fertilizer. Anybody out there using it and happy with the results. Picture attached has the ingredients. Does anyone see anything that I should be cautious about. Would be starting with the bloom for the fall and then switch to grow in the spring.

Thanks in advance for any help.

Vince

I used NPK raw for elongation of juniper. Results were stunning. Looks like tiny crystals, dissolves nicely in water, trees pump out growth.

Mine was 20-0-0 for elongation.

I personally used it and it was amazing.

 

[IzzyG]

I switched my recovering yamadori from apical to NPK for the last 3 months with Todd’s recommendation and they’ve been doing really well. It’s probably too soon to tell but there’s been no negative effects. I know Todd’s been using versions of it for about a year and his garden’s growth this year has been outstanding.

 

[Glaucus]

It is very low in nitrogen. This should only be used if you know your plant is deficient in phosphate and potassium, but not nitrogen. If you have no data on what is deficient, you'd use a balanced fertilizer. Probably a multiple of 3-1-2, or at least in that ballpark.

 

[RJG2]

Just looked at their website and noticed this is their "bloom" fertilizer. Their regular "grow" fertilizer is 7, 4, 5 - probably a better general choice.

 

[Maiden69]

I've been using NPK products for the last 3 years and added the fertilizer this season. In comparison to MiracleGrow the growth is slightly slower. I was supplementing MiracleGrow with NPK and I had the best two seasons as far as raw growth on developing material. I think NPK is definitely more suited to trees that you are starting to slow down and refine. I do think that NPK is the better product, as far as composition.

I use the following Full Up, Humic, Kelp, CalMag, Silica, GROW (this is the fertilizer I use), and Yucca. Will be adding the Aminos next year.

 

[Paradox]

Yea I thought that NPK ratio was a bit odd as well

 

[Wood]

I use the following Full Up, Humic, Kelp, CalMag, Silica, GROW (this is the fertilizer I use), and Yucca. Will be adding the Aminos next year.

That feels really... excessive to me. Is this in response to some foliar testing? What are each of these supplements doing for your trees?

Full Up's label says it's 100% sphagnum peat moss, so wouldn't that function basically the same as humic acids? Kelp's a well-known biostimulant, so that makes sense. Yucca's supposed to be a wetting agent, which might be helpful for broken down and compacted soils. How do plants use amino acids? That's one I've never heard of

 

[Maiden69]

Full Up's label says it's 100% sphagnum peat moss, so wouldn't that function basically the same as humic acids? Kelp's a well-known biostimulant, so that makes sense.

Both Fulvic ( Full Up) and Humic are added with Kelp at a 5:2 ratio, pretty well known to be better than to use either product alone. Plenty of studies online.

Five:Two is a blend of Humic Acid and Kelp Extract based on a 10 year study that showed the combination of Humic Acid & Kelp at a 5:2 ratio proved 50% more root mass than either product used separately. Virginia Tech's research team showed that the 5:2 ration let to more root mass fruit mass.

Yucca as you stated is a wetting agent, I use it mostly on foliar sprays but once in a while I add it to the drenches as well. Quote from their website.

NPK Industries' RAW Yucca is a plant supplement that can help with a variety of horticultural issues, including:

• Wetting agent: Helps distribute water and nutrients throughout the plant, and keeps them in suspension during delivery. This helps prevent nutrient lock-up and allows for deeper penetration into the root zone.
• Drought stress: Reduces the effects of drought stressors like heat and salinity.
• Plant pathogens: Protects against plant pathogens.
• Hydroponic systems: Helps keep hydroponic systems running smoothly.
• Drip emitter lines: Helps keep drip emitter lines from clogging.
• Root growth: Stimulates root growth, which can extend the area irrigation reaches. This can reduce irrigation costs.
• Mineral salts and organics: Keeps mineral salts and organics in suspension with each other.

Aminos help with the uptake of calcium which increases the availability of pectin. (increases the plants defense system among other things)

May look excessive, but I can't argue with the results. You can also look at @cmeg1 results as well, although he adds CO2 supplementation which increases growth exponentially.

 

[Applicative]

Todd runs npk raw in spring, and npk bloom in fall. this is bloom per an email I got.

I run these and also have aminos and calmag. Following some posts from cmeg and others of pushing calcium and aminos with great results. also foliar with humic/ kelp at 5:2.

The spoon feed method is fun if your into it, feel a bit like a mad scientist and just another great excuse to go piddle around the garden.

 

[Deep Sea Diver]

Here’s a pro’s opinion on this topic. Just visited him and her couldn’t say too much about RAW Grow and Bloom.

NPK Fertilizer — First Branch Bonsai

www.firstbranchbonsai.com

Cheers
DSD sends

 

[Kievnstavick]

I expiremented with using RAW's humic acid, fulvic, and kelp in the 5:2 mixture using Yucca as a wetting agent for foliar sprays. I don't have experience with their fertilizers. I personally use TPS fertilizers with osmocote plus pellets.

I am quite happy with the results outside of the Yucca leaving sticky leaves sometimes. I just need to get a smaller mixture of it in my solution and I think it should be fine.

I will say that I didn't try this with a control, so I can't say what would have occurred without the spray. My recollection is that I achieved more growth with smaller internodes and backbudding on my tropicals. The results that I observed can easily just be confirmation bias, but I was happy enough that I started spraying all of my plants with the foliar spray.

 

[Greenpoint Vince]

Thanks s

I used NPK raw for elongation of juniper. Results were stunning. Looks like tiny crystals, dissolves nicely in water, trees pump out growth.

Mine was 20-0-0 for elongation.

I personally used it and it was amazing

Thanks so much! Im going to hold off on the bloom and try the grow in the spring on some of my pines and junipers that need elongation.

 

[Greenpoint Vince]

Just looked at their website and noticed this is their "bloom" fertilizer. Their regular "grow" fertilizer is 7, 4, 5 - probably a better general choice.

Thanks! I agree and will hold off on the bloom...

 

[Greenpoint Vince]

It is very low in nitrogen. This should only be used if you know your plant is deficient in phosphate and potassium, but not nitrogen. If you have no data on what is deficient, you'd use a balanced fertilizer. Probably a multiple of 3-1-2, or at least in that ballpark.

Yah Im just going to stick with good old Bio gold for now. I'll try the grow in the spring on some of my less established trees.

 

[Greenpoint Vince]

I switched my recovering yamadori from apical to NPK for the last 3 months with Todd’s recommendation and they’ve been doing really well. It’s probably too soon to tell but there’s been no negative effects. I know Todd’s been using versions of it for about a year and his garden’s growth this year has been outstanding.

Thanks! Have you herd anything about feeding with fish and kelp at the same time? Currently I feed with biogold and fish and kelp.

 

[IzzyG]

Thanks! Have you herd anything about feeding with fish and kelp at the same time? Currently I feed with biogold and fish and kelp.

That was my previous regimen(biogold and fish/kelp). Theres definitely trees that thrived on it but many that didn’t. Apical testing showed that salt accumulation was the culprit(Sierra Juniper and RMJs were the ones hardest hit).