Potted Sugar Maple

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Im not sure if this is the proper forum, but Ive searched online and I cant find the info Im looking for, so I thought Id ask here!

I have a 6 foot Sugar Maple in a pot that Im keeping outdoors in a 14 inch container

The first 2 feet are a single trunk, this splits into 2 and then multiple branching at the top 2 feet

Is this height still considered a bonsai? I was wondering about pruning and general care and if this is even a good idea!

Im not necessarily looking to make it a bonsai, but I would like it to not get too bushy and "wild"

About how big can I expect it to get?

Thanks in advance for an help!
 
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It depends how it's situated, as far as how big it will grow.
It can fill the pot with roots, become impossible to water, and die.

Or it can get a root into earth, break the pot, and become a full grown sugar maple!

Sorce
 
Thanks for the reply.
The root ball takes up about 1/2 the container.
Im not looking for pruning advice on how to make it a bonsai, just general pruning advice to keep it happy and healthy!
Thanks again for the help👍
 

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Norway maple.....I think.
Snap one of the leaf petioles and check if the sap is clear or white....
The leaves can look similar.....but I'm seeing 7 lobes.
 
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Like Sorce says, it will eventually die. Pot culture is only possible long term with pruning and especially root pruning. In the pot shown it might be about 5 years but I expect it will be pot bound in a year.
Also, as suggested, it does not look like a typical sugar maple and is probably a Norway maple or a hybrid.
 
Strictly speaking bonsai is a Japanese term for a tree in a pot. You have a tree in a pot which is bonsai.

I subscribe to the snobbery that the caliper of a real bonsai is something like 1/12th its height, more or less. So, I think a one foot tall bonsai should have a trunk caliper of about 1 inch. Then. I also think the trunk should taper on that scale. Your tree is not a bonsai in my book.

On the other hand, we have a form called 'literati' or 'bunjin' whose whole point is a fascinating, thin trunk line. The trunk you have is not all that interesting, so it doesn't qualify for my artsy snobbery in that way either.

I've got 6 different species of maple, rubrum. palmatum, shirasawanum, circinatum, platanoides, and macrophyllum. One thing they all have in common is that their leaf sizes reduce by an incredible amount if one keeps them small, like under 4 inches. But even when they are larger than that, their leaves can be made smaller, and they are fascinating bonsai subjects. All can be defoliated to produce a smaller set of leaves for the second half of the growing season, pretty much without regard for size of the tree.

Therefore, the question is, @bayboat, what amuses you? You've grown a tree in a pot, what is next? Do you want to see what you can make of it? That is the sort of thing that interests me and step 1 is figuring out how it works, or more specifically, how do I get it to make leaves and stems down the stem.

Defoliation is very bonsai, don't you think? Maybe take your scissors and cut through the petioles (that thin little stem holding the leaf to the branch/trunk) to remove every leaf. Also cut off the tip of every little branch/branchlet as keeping it in place tends to keep new leaves from appearing below it. Within a few weeks, you'll see some new leaves popping out of the buds at the bases of the petioles remaining from when you cut off this season's original leaves. By the end of the summer you will see that the leaves are still smaller than those your tree started with (fascinating, huh?).

But, in the meantime you may have seen some little reddish bumps below where there were any leaves. These are what bonsai enthusiasts refer to as 'back buds'. If you got any, each may produce a new shoot. Next spring, you'll notice that there are buds near the end of a branch and another pair a bit lower and maybe even another pair that are not so big below those. You can cut back to these visible buds and then have some more pairs appear below that. And again you can cut back to those smallest visible buds before the buds break, producing new stems with new leaves, so you then have a much shorter tree. It is maybe much more exciting to do a 'trunk chop' than to chase the buds down, but it risks being too much for the tree or you having accidentally removed the last node of the maple and it is history.

Anyway, @bayboat, you've grown a tree in a pot.
Now what interests you?
What do you want to make of it?


OR what do you want to learn about trees from it?
Knowledge is priceless, IMHO.
 
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Thanks for all the info.
I dont want it to die in 5 years or so, maybe Ill just put it in the ground.
Thanks again!
 
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