SouthernMaples' Quarterly Unofficial Bonsai Nut Trial Run All Species Contest

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Welcome to the Contest: The rules are that it has to be a tree in your collection this weekend, it can be something you are working on, whatever, the contest begins as soon as you are done reading this post and the deadline to post ends Sunday night at 9pm west coast time(LosAngeles). See this link for posting format: https://www.bonsainut.com/threads/bonsai-nut-2020-expo.45470/post-777937

*** Please don't comment until after the deadline has been reached ***
for feedback on what I should do for the actual contest please use the Bonsai nut 2020 thread I started a few days ago:

 
Ok since noone posted trees and everyone doesn't have the time I will push back the deadline until the end of the month. And in this contest ALL SUBMISSIONS MUST BE YOUR VERY FIRST TREE
 
A picture of an empty stand then accompanied by a rendition of “Empty Chairs at Empty Tables” from Les Mis
I dreamed a dream I never died...... when hope was high and life worth living....
But there are dreams that cannot be...And there are prunes we cannot weather
I had a dream my life would be...So different from this hell I'm living
So different now from what it seemed....now root pruning has killed the dream I dreamed........
 
Why all the rules about what tree you post? I've never heard of a contest based on your first tree... And why are you shouting LOL???😄
 
Where in the Hell are the pictures? Of all the bonsai joints in all the towns in all the world, I'm the only one with decent photos? Do I have to embarrass all of you and post another 20 show ready photos that I have on file from this summer's virtual shows? Let's go, hotshots! I'm shocked! Shocked that there's photography going on here. Except that all these hotshot photographers seem to have run out of pixels. Drop your sox and grab your cameras and get down to business.
 
Where in the Hell are the pictures? Of all the bonsai joints in all the towns in all the world, I'm the only one with decent photos? Do I have to embarrass all of you and post another 20 show ready photos that I have on file from this summer's virtual shows? Let's go, hotshots! I'm shocked! Shocked that there's photography going on here. Except that all these hotshot photographers seem to have run out of pixels. Drop your sox and grab your cameras and get down to business.
No, it’s just that your tree is so wonderful that no one can compete against it.

so, YOU WIN!

Congratulations!!
 
Where in the Hell are the pictures? Of all the bonsai joints in all the towns in all the world, I'm the only one with decent photos? Do I have to embarrass all of you and post another 20 show ready photos that I have on file from this summer's virtual shows? Let's go, hotshots! I'm shocked! Shocked that there's photography going on here. Except that all these hotshot photographers seem to have run out of pixels. Drop your sox and grab your cameras and get down to business.
Hold your horses, I still haven't submitted an entry yet, I am still readying my tree, I extended the deadline(end of the month) for a reason.
 
Would you please critique Foorsoothe!s' entry? So us amateurs can learn a thing or two about presenting our trees.
I will.
The overall silhouette of the forest is very pleasing. The foliage density is mostly well-balanced, but there are a few areas that are thin and still filling in. The placement of the trees creates some symmetrical negative space in the lower areas which is emphasized by the black background. In fact it has a gap dead-center, which is almost bolstered by the large feet of the pot. The trunks are relatively similar in size, and more variation would be good, though a young forest could have this representation.

The pot is visually too deep, and too shiny, with chunky feet. Forests should usually be displayed in a pot the conjures the forest floor; unglazed earth tones are good for this, so are stone slabs. The forest is tall and delicate and quiet, and the pot does not aid this image. It is also too small for this composition. Some negative space on the sides would give the composition room to breathe.

The moss job is distracting. It should be consistent from one side to the other, with subtle variations if necessary to support the Or connect the several groups of trees. I like the gray moss on the right side, but the taller red moss is clumpy and distracting, and is obscuring the trunks behind those several clumps.

The stand is also too deep and too chunky, and too light. The legs should be small, short, understated, and dark. This again helps convey a quiet feeling of a forest. it is also too small, as the pot barely fits on the stand. Stands usually have a center panel, within which the whole pot should fit. This puts a big chunky bright pot on top of a big chunky bright stand. Nobody is looking at the trees anymore.

There is no need to place the stand on top of a mat. However, if the mat is big enough to contain the stand and the accent, it could tie the composition together. As is, it separates the tree from the accent.

The accent plant is in another aqua oval pot. It is a nice little pot and would be ok if the trees were in a wide shallow unglazed oval, but good displays don’t duplicate elements this obviously. Repetition is rewarding to a viewer, but duplication is distracting. It is also perched on a stand that it barely fits on. As cool as it is, here a jita slab would be more appropriate. The plant itself seems to be a succulent of some type, which I would not associate with a forest floor. It doesn’t look that healthy either. Choose a plant that you would find with these larch forests. Maybe a fern, or some wild grasses and clover.

The accent should be spaced farther away from the tree, again for room to breathe. I see a slight left to right movement of the forest canopy, so I would place the accent to the right instead of to the left. To my eye, the forest has turned its back to the accent.
 
@Brian Van Fleet , this was most helpful in SO many ways...

I started attempting to reply and cut around the pieces of info/critique you provided, thanking you for each one... but it started feeling like I was only “radio editing” a very small amount out.. A futile attempt at appreciation

So let me just say, MANY of these specific phrases/ideas will stay with me, added to my “internal notes”, forever.....

Aiding me when necessary!

🤓

Thank you for taking the time!
 
I will.
The overall silhouette of the forest is very pleasing. The foliage density is mostly well-balanced, but there are a few areas that are thin and still filling in. The placement of the trees creates some symmetrical negative space in the lower areas which is emphasized by the black background. In fact it has a gap dead-center, which is almost bolstered by the large feet of the pot. The trunks are relatively similar in size, and more variation would be good, though a young forest could have this representation.

The pot is visually too deep, and too shiny, with chunky feet. Forests should usually be displayed in a pot the conjures the forest floor; unglazed earth tones are good for this, so are stone slabs. The forest is tall and delicate and quiet, and the pot does not aid this image. It is also too small for this composition. Some negative space on the sides would give the composition room to breathe.

The moss job is distracting. It should be consistent from one side to the other, with subtle variations if necessary to support the Or connect the several groups of trees. I like the gray moss on the right side, but the taller red moss is clumpy and distracting, and is obscuring the trunks behind those several clumps.

The stand is also too deep and too chunky, and too light. The legs should be small, short, understated, and dark. This again helps convey a quiet feeling of a forest. it is also too small, as the pot barely fits on the stand. Stands usually have a center panel, within which the whole pot should fit. This puts a big chunky bright pot on top of a big chunky bright stand. Nobody is looking at the trees anymore.

There is no need to place the stand on top of a mat. However, if the mat is big enough to contain the stand and the accent, it could tie the composition together. As is, it separates the tree from the accent.

The accent plant is in another aqua oval pot. It is a nice little pot and would be ok if the trees were in a wide shallow unglazed oval, but good displays don’t duplicate elements this obviously. Repetition is rewarding to a viewer, but duplication is distracting. It is also perched on a stand that it barely fits on. As cool as it is, here a jita slab would be more appropriate. The plant itself seems to be a succulent of some type, which I would not associate with a forest floor. It doesn’t look that healthy either. Choose a plant that you would find with these larch forests. Maybe a fern, or some wild grasses and clover.

The accent should be spaced farther away from the tree, again for room to breathe. I see a slight left to right movement of the forest canopy, so I would place the accent to the right instead of to the left. To my eye, the forest has turned its back to the accent.
Brian, your critique is spot on.
 
Brian, your critique is spot on.
Do you have nothing to add I remember when we were in knoxville, you had a lot to say about a particular forest. Does this particular forest work ? Because with that critique you emphasized that not all trees should have the same height, and that the ones on the outside should be shorter than the ones in the middle. So with this particular forest I feel like with your advice that the tall tree on the right should be cut back some to the foliage, so that it creates more symmetry with the left side and creates almost a triangle, even the tall tree next to it could be cut back some too.

I agree with bryan on the moss and feel that the red and yellow moss should not be there. The greyish green moss is great in here and really goes well with the bark of the trees.

Still a very beautiful tree and forest, I hope one day I can do something of this caliber. Thank you Forsoothe for being the first one to jump into the fray, I look forward to hearing your critique of my plant.
 
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