Redwood Ryan
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Thank you all. I agree that another chop would severely weaken the tree. I will fill in around the rootball with Oil-Dri and keep it mulched in the greenhouse over the winter. Thanks everyone.
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Redwood Ryan
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I just filled the soil in:
And took a picture of a new leaf coming out:
And took a picture of the fertilizer I use:
And took a picture of a new leaf coming out:
And took a picture of the fertilizer I use:
I can't see the picture you posted of the fertilizer you plan to use, but it sounds like from your similar thread on IBC that you are using Bio Gold?? Unless you're very wealthy, not sure I'd be using premium fertilizers on something like this.
rockm
Spuds Moyogi
Good point. In addition to being expensive and in short supply Bio-Gold isn't going to really give this plant the "oomph" it needs. I'd switch to straight, full strength Miracle-Gro. You'll get stronger results. Bio-Gold is great--for bonsai, not so much for trees in development...
Redwood Ryan
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This is true. Being fresh out of high school though, all I have to spend my money on is bonsai and girls
I'll go fetch the Miracle Gro and dilute it with the gallon of water. I didn't know that Bio-Gold is more used for finished trees. That's interesting though.
Smoke
Ignore-Amus
I don't think thats Bio gold. I used bio gold for years and it always came in foil bags. The bag was always labled for US distribution and was always printed in English. I don't see it imported any longer so I can't get it out here.
The stuff in the cello bag from Japan is OK being not much better than koi food, which incidently make a fairly good fertilizer, and is cheap in bulk.
Economically stay away from Japanese fertilizer it is just too expensive for what you get. Use this stuff in the plastic jug and you will see results in 30 days and never look back. I buy it at Sams Club and it is pretty inexpensive that way. Staggering results!
The stuff in the cello bag from Japan is OK being not much better than koi food, which incidently make a fairly good fertilizer, and is cheap in bulk.
Economically stay away from Japanese fertilizer it is just too expensive for what you get. Use this stuff in the plastic jug and you will see results in 30 days and never look back. I buy it at Sams Club and it is pretty inexpensive that way. Staggering results!
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Redwood Ryan
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Thanks Al, I'll give that stuff a shot!
As for this being Bio-Gold, I'm 100% sure it is. In the upper right hand corner it even says Bio-Gold
This was actually bought from Dallas Bonsai, just scroll down a bit, it's there:
http://www.dallasbonsai.com/store/fertilizers.html
Brian Van Fleet
Pretty Fly for a Bonsai Guy
That Bio-Gold is very good, but it's crazy expensive; $1.00/oz. You can make cakes from PlantTone for < $1.00/pound, and it only takes about 30 minutes. BTW, your priories are backwards for a recent grad...girls first and it won't happen when you're making fertilizer cakes.
woodguy
Mame
...girls first and it won't happen when you're making fertilizer cakes.
That's sage advice there.
Hi Al,
I've been using that stuff as well and it seems to do a great job. Just out of curiosity, how much are you using? Recommended amount? More?
Redwood Ryan
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BTW, your priories are backwards for a recent grad...girls first and it won't happen when you're making fertilizer cakes.
Best point made on this thread so far
But hey, you never know
rockm
Spuds Moyogi
"I don't think thats Bio gold. I used bio gold for years and it always came in foil bags. The bag was always labled for US distribution and was always printed in English. I don't see it imported any longer so I can't get it out here.
The Bio-Gold you're used to buying in the gold foil bags is no longer available, or available in very limited amounts. Apparently, from what I've heard, the original manufacturer stopped making it. The newer stuff comes in different packaging.
The Bio-Gold you're used to buying in the gold foil bags is no longer available, or available in very limited amounts. Apparently, from what I've heard, the original manufacturer stopped making it. The newer stuff comes in different packaging.
jk_lewis
Masterpiece
Excellent advice. Buying NPK and dirt from Japan is -- simply put -- silly. We have lots of scientifically formulated fertilizers over here -- "organic" and not -- that are as good as anything with Kanji on the box, and heaven knows we have all kinds of dirt that bonsai will grow in just fine.
Redwood Ryan
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Thanks again for the replies everyone.
Al, I also bought that 'Shake-N-Feed' today and was wondering how much I can use on my trees. Is it possible to over-fertilize with it? Do you completely cover the surface of the soil? I'm a tad bit confused. Thanks!
Al, I also bought that 'Shake-N-Feed' today and was wondering how much I can use on my trees. Is it possible to over-fertilize with it? Do you completely cover the surface of the soil? I'm a tad bit confused. Thanks!
Mac In Oak Ridge
Shohin
And how the chipmunks and squirrels love to dig out the food supply in the pots. I can't even use traditional cake type fertilizer around my place cause of them little buggers. I bet I have sent 15 squirrels on to a better life this summer and the dogs have gotten a half dozen chipmunks. There are plenty left around here to insure the continuation of the species.
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jferrier
Mame
Ryan:
Really bad timing for doing such a major chop, but hopefully it will pull through. I'd leave it alone for now, as anything else may do it in. Wondering why you have it in a greenhouse this time of year though? Is the temp in there staying low enough and do you get good air circulation?
Really bad timing for doing such a major chop, but hopefully it will pull through. I'd leave it alone for now, as anything else may do it in. Wondering why you have it in a greenhouse this time of year though? Is the temp in there staying low enough and do you get good air circulation?
Redwood Ryan
Masterpiece
I just figured "why not?" It seems to be healing well though, so if it's not broke, don't fix it
rockm
Spuds Moyogi
Actually you won't know if it's not "broke" until next spring. All those new shoots don't have much time to mature before the first frost. They are at least four months behind. You stand to lose some to winter freezes and wind....
jferrier
Mame
I just figured "why not?" It seems to be healing well though, so if it's not broke, don't fix it
Well you have to be careful in a small enclosed environment. If your greenhouse is well ventilated you may be ok, but if not you could have too much heat buildup (the greenhouse effect) and possibly mold/fungus problems. Generally greenhouses are used during the cold times of the year and opened up for free air flow during the summer.
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