what substrate for maple cuttings and seedlings

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Just curious of what you use and why?
I have seen perlite, regular potting soil.... and the list goes on and on.

I will plant regular palmatums, tridents and hopefully I get some atropurpureum to germinate.
 
I'm not sure if this is any help but I recently got some cutting grown plants from a vendor and they've been growing in this pot since bein a cutting and it seems to be 50 perlite, 25 small bark and 25 what I think is peat. Trees are happy and vigorous.
 
yeah perlite+some organic soil seems to be the winning formula... I think.

Maybe TURF! (just kidding...)
 
i saw pure perlite the other day...
any else want to chime in?
 
This is the first year I've grown maples (japanese) from seed. After pre-sprouting in the fridge, I've planted them in a mix composed primarily of turface, perlite, sphagnum, and some bark fines. So far so good, but the oldest ones are only now starting to open their first true leaves...long way to go. No losses to fungus (damping off) yet, fingers crossed on that.
 
I run about 60/40 on my maple mix. I use a little more organic because our summers are very hot and arid. I start with a premium blend of potting soil and add in some inorganic to even the mix. Pumice, lava rock, chicken grit, perlite all are used as is turface.*

Maples are not that picky about soils and do well in a wide range of subtrates. Watering habit is more important. Acers resent changes. If you keep yours on the wet side, don't let them dry out. If you keep on the drier side don't flood them periodicly. Whether it's wetter or drier try to maintain a consistant moisture content. In my arid summer climate I tend to keep mine a little wet because they are very wet during our winter months.

*I am not using the turface in my repots. It has worked well, but I don't like the way it behaves in the pots. It doesn't play well with others. Lava rock, pumice, perlite all have rough surfaces and tend to cling to and hold the organics in place. The smoothe surface of turface does not adhere to the organic matter and I see the turface staying in place and the oraganics washing out to the sides. I have to keep turning it back in.

All in all, I'm not real happy with the performance. It was nice to get 50lb sacks and not have to crawl around gathering pumice and lava, but I think I'll go back to the jungle on this one. Sincerly, Rick
 
i saw pure perlite the other day...
any else want to chime in?

It think that was referring to trying to get cuttings to root. I don't know of anybody using pure perlite for Alrady rooted seedlings and cuttings.
 
so I started using pumic+potting soil in 1:2 (I wanted to use 1:1 but ran out of pumice).
 
so I started using pumic+potting soil in 1:2 (I wanted to use 1:1 but ran out of pumice).

I'm sure that'll work great barron. This year for my acer palmatum seedlings, I used 50:50 miracle grow potting soil to turface fines, and the trees are very healthy. Once outside, I think drying-out is a big threat; I mist them from time to time.
 
Not to hijack the thread, but I just planted about 70 seedlings last night in pots and flats. What are the growth rate differences I might experience between ground grown and flat/pot grown? I know it's been discussed before but I haven't found many people documenting the growth rate for pot/flat grown. I know in ground it wouldn't be out of the question to see 1" a year....
 
I guess if the pot does not become root bound in the first year, there should be no difference as the tree does not see a difference.
 
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