The future of our planet

he is an atmospheric scientist

When someone is "an atmospheric scientist", here it seems that a lot of people think they are "liberal" atmospheric scientists.

Could be worse, they could be from a tiny communist nuclear country between Zimbwany and Frangolia :D

Lucky them, some will never be able to place it on a map, phewww...
 
When someone is "an atmospheric scientist", here it seems that a lot of people think they are "liberal" atmospheric scientists.

I agree. I am also a scientist, but in the marine environmental field so I am automatically labeled as a liberal which I am not.
I fall somewhere in the middle and can lean either way depending on the topic.

I also agree with your last post that these threads are nothing but a waste of time.

It seems this forum is no longer about bonsai. Its about Trump, the government, gun control and now global warming.
I have get myself to stop responding to these threads and I really wish I could just block them. Its not why I am participating in this forum and it just causes aggravation. Bonsai is supposed to give me a break from all that crap.

Might be time for me to take a long break from the forums until we can stop talking about this crap, about 3 years probably maybe 7.....:cool:
 
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"Take for example the ice-caps melting because of global warming, whether global warming is nature-made, god-made, or man-made."

Well my buddy John ran the power plant at the south pole (the real south pole) in 2016 and for about 8 months the temp was -100 degrees F. I don't think even if there was 'climate change' of + 1 or even +10 C it would do anything to melt the ice. BTW that is actual observation from a guy who was there for 9 months and was responsible for keeping all the other folks there alive.

"As to your question about his degree, he stated somewhere else in this thread that he is an atmospheric scientist."

That is a broad description I asked what his degree was in. For example my oldest son a has a PhD in condensed matter physics but he is not qualified to call himself a nuclear phyicist just because he wants to.

AlainK: "Hence, more hurricanes, droughts, unusual freezing temps in other places. Etc.'
Except none of those things you mention are actually occurring. Even if unusual freezing temps are occurring how does that indicate global warming?

"Jesus.....Its Thanksgiving.
I am not Jesus, Don't believe in organized religion but I do believe in God. I am going to my sons house an an hour to celebrate and give thanks to God for our blessings."

AlainK:And anyway, if ever global warming and the rise in greenhouse gases were "natural", would that prevent us from seeking reasonable, sensitive, solutions to a real problem?

Quick answer --No.

Why do you assume that global warming and the rise in greenhouse gases are a real problem?
As to your "solutions" see my post above about platitudes - you seem to have a never ending supply.

"Huge chunks from the ice-cap, or glaziers (hundreds of acres) are released into the sea, so the sea gets colder."

This has been happening since there has been Polar Ice. It even has a name--Ice calving, the process by which an iceberg breaks off from an ice shelf or glacier. Remember what sunk the Titanic in April 1912.

Sparklemotion: "Or save Florida from mass flooding?"

I have lived in Florida since 2012, 2 years ago we had over 30 inches of rain in about 4 week period.A week after it stopped raining there were no signs that it had rained so much except of the lush vegetation
I don't think Florida will be underwater any time soon.

Paradox: "It seems this forum is no longer about bonsai."

This particular thread was never about Bonsai - It is titled: "The future of our planet" and was started by AlainK who was trying to blame all the "problems of the planet" to Americans. I reject this thought process completely and will post whatever I need to to refute and expose all platitudes posted here.
If you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen! "Si vous ne pouvez pas supporter la chaleur, sortez de la cuisine"

Out for now turkey etc next!
Will be here to annoy you later.

A_E
 
Paradox: "It seems this forum is no longer about bonsai."

This particular thread was never about Bonsai - It is titled: "The future of our planet" and was started by AlainK who was trying to blame all the "problems of the planet" to Americans. I reject this thought process completely and will post whatever I need to to refute and expose all platitudes posted here.
"Si vous ne pouvez pas supporter la chaleur, sortez de la cuisine"

I can read and I know what the thread was about. I am talking about the subject of the web site. It is bonsai in case you didnt know.
Not politics, not global warming, not gun control, not (insert whatever current topic). I get enough of that discussion elsewhere.
I participate in bonsai to get a break from that crap. I am sick of it and I have had enough.


If you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen!

These arguments are stupid. No one is going to change any one elses mind, we just argue and argue and go around in circles ad nausium.
I am going to sincerely attempt to stay out of these stupid discussions from now on because they are pointless arguements for the sake of arguing.
I have better things to do with my free time.


Will be here to annoy you later.

You may be here but you wont be "annoying" me any longer because of a nice feature we call the ignore list.
I am going to join others on the board and put you on mine immediately after I am done posting this.
Here is a hint: this is why you have not gotten an answer to your earlier questions and probably wont be.
You are the second person that will have a permanent home on mine since you dont have anything to contribute to the forum bonsai wise and can only insult and argue.
You will be followed by a third member here, whom also doesnt contribute anything regarding bonsai.

Good day

@AlainK
For the love of God, please stop making these threads!
 
For Paradox -

Kumbya oh Prime x, kumbya
Sandy's crying oh Prime x, kumbya
Sorce will aid her, with his magic,
Gogee will burn them with his flame.

The teahouse goes up in flames,
Sandy's crying once again.
It is hopeless asking Alain to change,
Kumbya oh Prime x, Jumbya.:cool::confused::eek::rolleyes:o_O:)

Written on the walls of St.Paul's Cathedral 1600
 
For Paradox -

Kumbya oh Prime x, kumbya
Sandy's crying oh Prime x, kumbya
Sorce will aid her, with his magic,
Gogee will burn them with his flame.

The teahouse goes up in flames,
Sandy's crying once again.
It is hopeless asking Alain to change,
Kumbya oh Prime x, Jumbya.:cool::confused::eek::rolleyes:o_O:)

Written on the walls of St.Paul's Cathedral 1600

Here is some kumbya for you Anthony
Go fuck yourself.

#4 on the list
 
Er, Sandy,

that was something to just have a laugh at.
To make you giggle.
Written on the walls of St.Paul ------------- an allusion to
what was believed about the Child of the Universe song.
Anthony


Out goes the baby with the bath water -----------wheeeee
 
Er, Sandy,

that was something to just have a laugh at.
To make you giggle.
Written on the walls of St.Paul ------------- an allusion to
what was believed about the Child of the Universe song.
Anthony


Out goes the baby with the bath water -----------wheeeee


They don't know how to laugh, everything is angst to them.

A_E
 
A_E [ @americanelmer ]

I can tell you that most of the folk here are decent.
Mike is a great guy, and I play along to Gogeerah as Mothra [ Mottie ]
Sorce is a magical being, full of joy.
I consider them to be Internet Friends, though we may never actually meet.

So by including Sandy in the Kumbya, I was also attempting to treat
her as friend. Enuff said.

Alain, I know from IBC [ internet bonsai club ] he does good work, and
I would have no problem inviting him to come and have a pint.
However, when he comes here [ no moderators ] he playfully angles his
responses to get a response.
Frankly, I am amazed the others haven't figured him out, and just learnt
to take him in stride.

When I was here maybe a year, someone asked me for images of the
work done down here. I just weed and water. My brother-in-law is
a Fine Artist and he designs. I don't have that gift.
Though I did take Art Appreciation.
I have abut 28 years of so of experience weeding and watering and I
am content.

I replied to the request, that all one had to do was look, as I had posted
about 2 and a 1/2 pages of images already.
Back then Bnut had the forum set up differently, a separate page would
show up with a listing of images already posted.
Probably saved on redundancies.

So I have been down the new boy's path.
Just show them what you can do and they will work with you.

As to the planet, more specifically the island of Trinidad.
Natural zone for oil, seepages all over, 1 acre pitch lake, the area
around it creeps and heavily into sulphur. Some lifeforms love it.
e.g. Mango trees.
Also have it occurring off shore.

Guys who go scuba diving around the reef zones etc, See old fish with
boils and growths, much like old humans.
Have they adapted to the oil /seepage ?

Folk who live near the sea and forests, often just look for free food.
No skill in hunting, no bows, arrows, spears, just buckshot ------ lead in the flesh.
No fishing lines, nets and no size restrictions, catch and kill all.
Dump what you do not want or is inedible.
No schooling either.

Latest stupidity ---------- eating the scarlet ibis [ they saw this in a movie ]
as a meal for the special ones.
Same for the caiman, gotta have those tails.

Then there are the rivers, now carrying exotic materials, like lead or spent
materials. Trinidad is naturally metal poor, just deposited clays.
Tires get old well, we just burn them.

The real reasons ------------- depressed, wasted life, no achievements, no
abilities, jealousy of those that followed the disciplines and so on.

Me, I tend to fix what I can and leave the rest alone.

So trees are planted, I educate about lead, rubber, and help children understand
education and what it is used for.
Not just get a job -------------------- research.
Good Day
Anthony

Experience has taught me that if I name it, folk in the north can seldom make a visual cionnecttion

So here is beauty ------------ and ---------- A thing of Beauty is a joy forever.
[ that and we still have to identify it - chuckle ]

beautiful.jpg
 
Mike is a great guy, and I play along to Gogeerah as Mothra
Ahh,Anthony.
You don't need to explain a thing to nobody.
These things bring out the worst in people. And some people are just all bad and won't ever change.
You won't change his mind about anything. It isnt possible.
But you and me?
We're all good.
 
Ahh,Anthony.
You don't need to explain a thing to nobody.
These things bring out the worst in people. And some people are just all bad and won't ever change.
You won't change his mind about anything. It isnt possible.
But you and me?
We're all good.



OMG
 
Just want to let you all know that I am appalled that the list mom turned off the Donald Trump thread because a few posters got their panties in a twist.
I didn't start the thread, fredman did in 2016. Nobody made anyone post on it or even read it and yet it looks like it has more posts and more views than any other thread on this site.

So much for the free and open exchange of ideas and opinions.

Sad
A_E
 
So much for the free and open exchange of ideas and opinions.
Freedom of speech requires a basic level of respect for the people you are discussing a topic with. That went out of the window a dozen pages earlier. I fully agree with closing it down. And don't worry. You will be able to get this one shut down too.
 
Freedom of speech requires a basic level of respect for the people you are discussing a topic with. That went out of the window a dozen pages earlier. I fully agree with closing it down. And don't worry. You will be able to get this one shut down too.


Your implication that Americanelmer was the reason for the Donald Trump Thread to be shut down & he can cause this thread to also be shut down is Absolute Pure BS, and you are Out of Line suggesting such Lies .....

It was shutdown because certain so called Left Wing Liberals were taking offense to Freedom of Speech ,.....
 
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