Wisteria - Not waking up in Spring

[Anthony]

@Heitor Silva ,

temperature around that of the vegetable crisper - use a thermometer.
For the fridge here that is 8 deg.C
For at least 6 weeks to two months.

In 3rd week of January sun, out April 1st [ our verion of spring ]
Then an area of bright light, dappled light until buds break
and next, morning and evening sun.
Before full sun - if the plant uses full sun.

*****Watch your watering. Dry in a fridge kills.******

Using an old fridge, not the family fridge.
Good Day
Anthony

Hello Heitor , and Leo.
I am Celtis l, from Louisiana as a tiny seedling since 1980
And I am a mother of many children by roots.

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[Heitor Silva]

@Heitor Silva ,

temperature around that of the vegetable crisper - use a thermometer.
For the fridge here that is 8 deg.C
For at least 6 weeks to two months.

In 3rd week of January sun, out April 1st [ our verion of spring ]
Then an area of bright light, dappled light until buds break
and next, morning and evening sun.
Before full sun - if the plant uses full sun.

*****Watch your watering. Dry in a fridge kills.******

Using an old fridge, not the family fridge.
Good Day
Anthony

Hello Heitor , and Leo.
I am Celtis l, from Louisiana as a tiny seedling since 1980
And I am a mother of many children by roots.

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Whoa! Very informative. Thank you very much, Anthony.

 

[barrosinc]

This is mine a week ago.

 

[Anthony]

@Heitor Silva ,

see if the petrea v. can grow on your side.
Flowers are light purple.
A shrub and a vining shrub.
Good Day
Anthony

https://www.plantsguru.com/petrea-volubilis-plant

 

[Heitor Silva]

@Heitor Silva ,

see if the petrea v. can grow on your side.
Flowers are light purple.
A shrub and a vining shrub.
Good Day
Anthony

https://www.plantsguru.com/petrea-volubilis-plant

Yep! It does. After some research, I found out that its nickname here is "Flor de São Miguel" - St. Michael's flower. There are also some nurseries here which have this plant available. Also, they do really resemble wisteria for me! Thx for the tip

 

[Anthony]

@Heitor Silva ,

you may find the native trees out performing the imported
trees.
Also, it is supposed to be in a 50 x 50 mile area around 50
trees or shrubs are able to make Bonsai.

Trinidad here, we have found 35 trees/shrubs so far.
The island is about 30 x 50 miles and all of our natives trees are
seeds brought by birds from your side.

So you should have a great time discovering.
Good Day
Anthony

Have you met @Clicio ?

 

[AlainK]

Wisteria are a cold climate vine. They need a cold winter rest.

Right: I have one in the ground, and a potted seedling. Here, we can have temperatures as low as 10° C, though it's becoming rare, but at least several days in a row below zero.

The only thing that killed other seedlings was lack of watering in summer. Yet, when the leaves begin drooping, just before they get crispy, I read that putting them in a tray containing water is a good way to make them flower the next season.

This year we had an exceptionnally hot and dry summer (41 ° C was the all-time record here, and I'm supposed to be in zone 8b). The potted one lost all its leaves so I put it in full shade in a tray with water. Soon, new buds opened and new leaves appeared. Not sure at all it will flower next year, it's only 4 years old, has always been in a pot so it hasn't developped so much and when not grafted Wisteria can take years to flower.

I just took a photo of the one that's climbing up a 8-9 metres high prunus (that is losing its leaves). The last rays of the sun are colouring the leaves of the Zelkova in the background :



And this is the potted one. I've neglected it, I should wire it. I could also take air-layers, they work very well on Wisteria.



Wisteria "specialists" :

If I prune it below the leaves, is there any chance it will backbud ?

Leo (from Illinois), what do you think ?...

 

[AlainK]

you may find the native trees out performing the imported
trees.

I couldn't agree more.

Of course, I don't want to discourage you, but there must be many flowering trees more suitable to your climate, trees that we can't keep here and can make beautiful bonsai in Sao Paulo.

When I hear about keeping trees in a fridge, or in glass cages with artificial light, I wonder, what's the point ?

But since you have it now, good luck, I hope it will survive - outdoors : to me, there is no such thing as "indoors bonsai", whether in a fridge, or under artificial lights...

 

[Heitor Silva]

Sheesh! It's amazing how such a simple question became a thread with so much valuable information!

 

[Anthony]

@AlainK ,

chuckle, the old fridge is just 2 months a year and opened
once a week for say 30 minutes.
The trees are loving memories of Lafayette, Louisiana.
Good Day
Anthony

 

[Forsoothe!]

The forced drought anecdote is cute, and doing that with a 4 year old plant plant probably won't work anyway, but, are you going to do that with a 10, or 20, or 40 year old specimen? That's pretty gutsy, or possibly throwing away 10, or 20, or lots of years work the one time it goes bad.