A day to remember...

[Klytus]

Fool me once...

 

[meushi]

As I said, it is very unlikely that anything coming from the United States or the United Kingdom would be accepted by the "crazies that run the place", due to events in the last 60 years. It would be nice if the country could get back to the parliamentary democracy it had before those events, but that change has to come from inside the country...

 

[Klytus]

The only crazies are spouting the same old lies,maybe it's just trolling.

Or maybe it's becuse they are psychopaths?

A terrible concept ,psychopaths and Sociopaths deluging the intarwebs with it.

 

[Klytus]

Here is another titbit,some eight years ago i was reading a lament by a a Californian,he realised he should have shouted down the crazies when they started radicalizing and attacking his foreign freinds via the web forum.

Eventually there was nothing left of the forum,just a bunch of loons,sycophants and the site owners who had been induced to ban all other posters because of threats and harrasments.

Viewing another forum i found the self same radicalisers denegrating the forum they wrecked because not only had they gotten away with it but the sitre owners had also banned their sport from posting.

It seems to be a problem for many forums.

 

[Vance Wood]

As I said, it is very unlikely that anything coming from the United States or the United Kingdom would be accepted by the "crazies that run the place", due to events in the last 60 years. It would be nice if the country could get back to the parliamentary democracy it had before those events, but that change has to come from inside the country...

It will not get back to a parliamentary democracy without a revolution; in other words a lot of shed blood. This should show all students of history and politics why our Constitution forbids the government from involving itself in the support or opposition to a religion. When religion gains control of government the problems that arise are neither just or democratic. When this happens the government tends to resort to a sort of self proclaimed spiritual pragmatism where they justify every thing they do as being mandated from God, or their interpretation of Him.

The US constitution does not forbid religious people from being in government or members of government from being religious as some would have us believe. The concept of a separation of Church and State is not what the US Constitution says. That quote comes from the Communist Manifesto. It is argued by some that the Constitution is a totally secular document and forbids any acknowledgement of religion at all. This too is false. All one must do is read what the founding fathers said and did and how the generations that followed approached this subject until recently. The unique thing about our Constitution and indeed the American people, is the effort to acknowledge the contradictions of the human condition and allow for those contradictions in the laws we write to protect and serve the people.

Forgive the rant, but in short the surest and cruelest form of government is one that justifies itself as being mandated by God, for God and from God. Under this mantel they can justify almost anything; and that is what is happening in a good portion of the Islamic world we are having to deal with at present.

 

[greerhw]

Even if it was possible Iran would never go for that alternitive. There is no doubt in my mind that Iran wants to develop and deploy a nuclear weapon, and the crazies that run the place would no doubt use it especially on Israel they have said as much.

The Israelis will never let that happen.


keep it green,
Harry

 

[Klytus]

Anti-Semitism?

 

[Klytus]

More Deadwood.

http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/WWblackands.htm

Where is the Gold now,it's not at Knox.

 

[Vance Wood]

The Israelis will never let that happen.


keep it green,
Harry

Let it happen? No of course not, neither would we in-spite of what some conspiracy theorists may think. The difference between letting it happen and not being able to prevent it from happening are the things we are talking about. Resolve! That constantly and irretrievably eroding asset that was once the hallmark of our country. We have let our enemies, domestic and foreign dictate what we think of ourselves. We are now so unsure of ourselves I doubt we would do what is necessary to stop that kind of attack even if we knew it was coming. Look what happened to GW, trying to satisfy the dictates of the UN in essence allowed Sadam time to squirrel away and out of Iraq his WMDs.

 

[Klytus]

It's because we have peace.

Shouldn't you be killing those who stole your Gold?

 

[Vance Wood]

Anti-Semitism?

Don't you find it amazing and odd that one people scattered among the nations persecuted, reviled, and murdered for a host of reasons have always remained a constant and unified presence where ever they go. Without a country any longer to call their own they have been hounded from border to border pushed into corners and killed for simply being Jews. Now they have returned to Israel and the world still hates them. Do you ever wonder why?

 

[Klytus]

Here,an interpretation of the hungry ghost.

http://buddhism.about.com/od/buddhismglossaryh/g/hungryghostdef.htm

The American version wanders the globe killing those who had nothing to do with the theft of it's gold or the ruin of it's nation.

Much like this.

 

[greerhw]

Here,an interpretation of the hungry ghost.

http://buddhism.about.com/od/buddhismglossaryh/g/hungryghostdef.htm

The American version wanders the globe killing those who had nothing to do with the theft of it's gold or the ruin of it's nation.

Are you from a planet I'm familiar with, or is it in a Galaxy far far away.

keep it green,
Harry

 

[greerhw]

Let it happen? No of course not, neither would we in-spite of what some conspiracy theorists may think. The difference between letting it happen and not being able to prevent it from happening are the things we are talking about. Resolve! That constantly and irretrievably eroding asset that was once the hallmark of our country. We have let our enemies, domestic and foreign dictate what we think of ourselves. We are now so unsure of ourselves I doubt we would do what is necessary to stop that kind of attack even if we knew it was coming. Look what happened to GW, trying to satisfy the dictates of the UN in essence allowed Sadam time to squirrel away and out of Iraq his WMDs.

Keep paying attention to the news and without any warning the Israelis will prevent it from happining, I have no doubt Obama,the UN and other Nations will be horrified, but the Israelis won't give a fat rats ass, because they will still be here.

keep it green,
Harry

 

[AlainK]

I remember exactly when i heard the news on the radio in my car, i was on my way to fetch my son at school.

I was horrified, and fascinated too: it was the first time since the independance of yhe US that people were killed by an enemy on the mainland.

I thought of all the families that lost a parent, or a friend. some of my friends might have been there too.

And I find it very sad that the sympathy a lot of people feel for those who are in grief is once again turned into a political debate by some, this is an insult to the victims. I feel compassion for the families, and I really pity the specialists of aggressive, racist, stupid comments. I am appalled when I see their lack of culture, of common sense, theit gross ignorance of history, their inability to take lessons from the past, their selfishness and their trigger-happy contemptuous self-rightousness.

I also feel sadness and sympathy for the firefighters who gave their lives for all the people in California, not those who are the victims of Nazis trying to control the availability of water for the benefit of the largest number of citizens, but all the fine people who worked hard all their lives and lost everything. I couldn't help thinking of that other hateful post when I heard the sad news.

I feel sad to think that some of them won't even be able to get proper care because they can't afford a decent health insurance for lack of solidarity from their fellow citizens.

Let's pray? What a joke, is that the message of the gospels? Who used the word sycophant?...

And some will wonder: "Why do you Americans hate us?... "

 

[Vance Wood]

I remember exactly when i heard the news on the radio in my car, i was on my way to fetch my son at school.

I was horrified, and fascinated too: it was the first time since the independance of yhe US that people were killed by an enemy on the mainland.

I thought of all the families that lost a parent, or a friend. some of my friends might have been there too.

And I find it very sad that the sympathy a lot of people feel for those who are in grief is once again turned into a political debate by some, this is an insult to the victims. I feel compassion for the families, and I really pity the specialists of aggressive, racist, stupid comments. I am appalled when I see their lack of culture, of common sense, theit gross ignorance of history, their inability to take lessons from the past, their selfishness and their trigger-happy contemptuous self-rightousness.

I also feel sadness and sympathy for the firefighters who gave their lives for all the people in California, not those who are the victims of Nazis trying to control the availability of water for the benefit of the largest number of citizens, but all the fine people who worked hard all their lives and lost everything. I couldn't help thinking of that other hateful post when I heard the sad news.

I feel sad to think that some of them won't even be able to get proper care because they can't afford a decent health insurance for lack of solidarity from their fellow citizens.

Let's pray? What a joke, is that the message of the gospels? Who used the word sycophant?...

And some will wonder: "Why do you Americans hate us?... "

Excuse my ignorance Alan but who the hell are us?

 

[grouper52]

Hey Klytus and AlainK,

I agree with Harry that you may not perhaps be from around here, but from some far advanced civilization in another time and place. Could you do us poor local boys a favor, and make your posts a bit more user friendly for those of us provincials confined to the English language and quaint notions like logic and coherence? Just asking. We obviously have much to learn.

Will

 

[Klytus]

I was reading,some years ago now,that California made it a crime to collect rainwater.

Is it still an offence or did they rethink it and build a desalination plant to supply the agriculturalists with water?

I did a little research and yes there were plans to home the desalination plant next to a nuclear reactor.

http://www.ens-newswire.com/ens/may2009/2009-05-15-093.asp

Nuclear powered oranges,anyone?

 

[Ross]

I was horrified, and fascinated too: it was the first time since the independance of yhe US that people were killed by an enemy on the mainland.

Not to diminish your point, but this is a common misconception. At least one instance was in 1916, when German agents blew up an ammo depot on Black Tom Island in New York Harbor, killing a number of people and causing major damage to the Statue of Liberty.

 

[Klytus]

I like to know which schemers are spending my money on bettering themselves.