Its already being used for all sorts of sinister things.
I second that. Have been checking out Nick Lenz creations and am inspired to develop a root over "rock", sans the rock. Penelope is simply gorgeous as is the tree growing out of the car and on what looks like a gargoyle. I was searching through Etsy and Amazon for my not-rock and haven't found it yet.
Wulfskaar
Omono
Cool (and scary).
I've also been playing around with AI bonsai art, but using bing ai. I've made some cool pics but the best usage I can think of is just for inspiration.
I've also been playing around with AI bonsai art, but using bing ai. I've made some cool pics but the best usage I can think of is just for inspiration.
Shogun610
Masterpiece
AI will only be as good as the human creation of forms its images off of. It’s not art if a computer mashed up images from the internet, it’s simply a concept or tool for ideation/ creation imo.
Hmmmm. How does one create anything if not from all the stored images in our brain that get mashed up and spit out as our own creation? We are all limited to what we have been exposed. Does AI think? Not sure, how do we define thinking? I remember spitting back info on tests in school. I believe I was thinking. AI seems to be doing the same thing. If you gave me key words and I painted a pic based off that, the pic would necessarily be defined by my frame of reference. Seems AI is doing the same again. Expose AI to the comments sections online, the AI will spew bigotry. Expose kids to the same, and you will get the same result. It's intelligence, albeit artificial (the AI, not the bigoted kids).
Colorado
Masterpiece
This is cool! Thanks for sharing. I tried it out. My prompt was “A hybrid creature of bonsai tree and dragon”
CrippyFreaky24
Yamadori
pandacular
Masterpiece
Yes, this is very true. I should've clarified that I meant specifically within art, it should always be thought of as a tool for artists, not a replacement for them. Of course, we will fail at making this distinction, but I hope we come out of new advancements in technology with a better art world, not a worse one.
pandacular
Masterpiece
This is kinda what I was getting at above when talking about specialty trained AIs. The companies I work with in this space aren't interested in using just any model, because they don't know what's gone into it. if it's been fed on the famous "the Pile" dataset, what's gone into is a lot of unsavory stuff. a reflection on humanity? perhaps, but why not feed it the best we have?
In the (near!) future, AI will be more useful to you and I not because it's more powerful, but because it's more tailored to it's applications.
Shogun610
Masterpiece
I’m just giving my opinion it’s nothing more than a tool but it takes the work out of the inputs into the system
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pandacular
Masterpiece
This reminds me of the old art vs craft debate I see often, especially with bonsai. I agree with Shogun that the outputs of a consumer model like these, while awesome, fall more into the category of craft than art. But that doesn't mean that True Art 
can't be made with AI.
Has anyone ever listened to Brian Eno's Music for Airports? it's an album made using generative computer systems that are in some way precursor to modern generative AI models. I think it'd be hard to deny that such things are not or cannot he art.
Maybe we just don't know what AI art looks like yet, but I believe that someone does, and therein lies the art.
and for what it's worth, I didn't read what @dbonsaiw said as at all huffy, just sharing their ideas in the form of an elenchus.
can't be made with AI. Has anyone ever listened to Brian Eno's Music for Airports? it's an album made using generative computer systems that are in some way precursor to modern generative AI models. I think it'd be hard to deny that such things are not or cannot he art.
Maybe we just don't know what AI art looks like yet, but I believe that someone does, and therein lies the art.
and for what it's worth, I didn't read what @dbonsaiw said as at all huffy, just sharing their ideas in the form of an elenchus.
Shogun610
Masterpiece
The difference between Human Brain is that it’s the creator of everything conceptualized by humans , AI is just code created by humans and used to adapt images of human creations to serve humans. It’s just a tool , nothing more. I’d take any artistic ability to create and conceptualized off INSPIRATION over anything AI creates 10,000,000 times to 1
KikurageOtomo
Shohin
It gets very tiresome having to manually blacklist this sort of minimal input content on social media platforms I access soley to see the creative fruits of individuals labors.
HENDO
Shohin
HENDO
Shohin
Bonsai Monster!
CrippyFreaky24
Yamadori
root over dog, do we have a new style?
August
Chumono
ShadyStump
Imperial Masterpiece
Not that desperate yet. A simple makeshift fence seems to be doing the trick so far.@ShadyStump Something to consider, certainly...
I have been keeping a casual eye on this topic, though.
My brother seems convinced Bing AI is on the verge of sentience, but how is something incapable of displaying any form of personality, or even vague preferences or dislikes to be considered sapient? Trust me, there will be much less debate when it actually happens. It will let us know, and it won't be as subtle as people are thinking.
That's my thoughts anyway.
Until then, AI generated content I feel is unprotected under copyright, but also as fraudulent as slapping your name on creative work you made your neighbor kid to do.
Just my two cents.
The copyright issue is a thorny one because, under some circumstances, generative AI systems can spit out content that is close enough to the original (copyrighted) source material from the training data set as to be infringing. There have already been instances where folks used AI to make images and the images it generated displayed the watermarks of commercial stock photo services, for example. I’d bet that if you repeatedly prompt an image generating AI to make a photo of a bonsai, at some point it’ll “generate” an image of a tree that’s straight out of a Kokufu book.
ShadyStump
Imperial Masterpiece
I've not heard of those issues, but it wouldn't surprise me one but. I recall hearing once of an AI training to recognize a particular sport fish (don't recall what exactly) and it would always misidentify images of the fish that came from aquariums or the like. The engineers finally realized that the AI wasn't identifying the shape of the fish but the shapes of the people's hands holding the fish in the photoshoot after they'd caught one.
So I can totally see how one might mistake a watermark for the image.
