Vance Wood
Lord Mugo
I should have added it has great possibilities. There is a great bonsai hiding in there.
Brian Van Fleet
Pretty Fly for a Bonsai Guy
The posts were back to back. Maybe I was wrong to assume you read them both. But I see this as a lost opportunity in your quest to prove mugo can grow anywhere south of the moon, or perhaps it's another indication that they can't.
I sure don't see them around here. Wish I did, but I've had better luck sticking with what grows well here. Like mugos do for you up there. Maybe for fun, you could sell me one and I'll grow it here in Bama and we can see how it goes. At least that experiment would eliminate the newbie factor. Got one you want to sell?
M. Frary
Bonsai Godzilla
I'll tell you what I make of it. Father's day in the south is the wrong time to repot a mugo pine. The growing season starts earlier there. It should have been done earlier. After the shoots extended but before they hardened off. The Father's day repotting time is for Vance's climate. For me it's later. Like July 4 it starts. To take father's day as repotting time for mugo pines all across the country would be ludicrous. Vance tells people they might have to adjust for their climate. Most only see Father's day as the time. It isn't Vance's fault people can't think for themselves.
And you know that.
Vance Wood
Lord Mugo
Thanks for the support. It may be true that Mugos wont grow that far South, but I am currently working on a mutual project with someone in basically the same climate. I know Brian has offered to buy one and send to Bama for him to work on. The fact does not hide itself, Brian has never been a fan of mine and has proven over the years he seeks any opportunity to prove me wrong or discredit my efforts. He seems to comb every thread I post on looking for errors so that he can point them out. To think that I might look at this request as anything but disingenuous would be a serious error on my part, right or wrong. He has not proven that he is an individual I can or should trust.
sorce
Nonsense Rascal
I think you should send him one free...
This way people also understand how giving broke folks are too!
Plus...taking out the newbie factor, I think it could work...
Brian....don't kill it on purpose!
And be nice to Vance for God same!
I hate when you 2 go at it!
Sorce
Actually you are right (duh! Of course you are!): one of my mugo already has some little buds popping up
I don't remember they did that last year after I bought them, cut 1/3rd of the root ball, re-poted them and did the 1st structural pruning.
May be I forgot or is it normal that they don't bud back within the same growing season of their 1st year?
RickMartin
Omono
Ok i give up..now i cant think for myself.
Paradox
Imperial Masterpiece
Hey, don't shoot the messenger......
I'm not the one fighting you here.
I know what Brian wrote, but think about it for a second. Brian is in Alabama so I know did not repot a pine in San Antonio on father's day. Rick, who is in San Antonio just had a pine die. Perhaps Brian should have been clearer. I'm with sorce, I wish you two would get along. I like both of you and appreciate the help you guys give to others.
Another note: I agree with Mike that you can not blame yourself for someone else's mugo not making it.
I agree with you that the transfer to Texas from Michigan plus the repotting probably stressed it out too much. All in all, it was a good test though.
@RickMartin, you shouldn't be hard on yourself either. You tried something, it didn't work but it taught you something too. Also shit happens. If/when you get back to a better climate, try again.
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GrimLore
Bonsai Nut alumnus... we miss you
My Wife is growing a Banana tree up here... Given the proper attention the reverse is possible with Mugo being a bit tougher then most other Pines and given that should be able to grow. Hell, I just took receipt for bougainvillea that came from Alabama and have Serissa from there... They will grow and in some cases better then local plants if the Summer is excessively hot...
Grimmy
RickMartin
Omono
I just made alot of mistakes
Rick
Rick
Paradox
Imperial Masterpiece
We all have. Welcome to the club.
Hard to say... Do not blame yourself Rick. You can learn from it and start second mugo to see whether they can be grown in pots in SA.
M. Frary
Bonsai Godzilla
I kill mugo pines and scots pines and jack pines on a scale much larger than you Rick. And that's up here where they thrive.
I make mistakes all of the time too.
Who cares?
You do finally have a pine that does like you though. So all isn't lost.
sorce
Nonsense Rascal
Brian Van Fleet
Pretty Fly for a Bonsai Guy
You can address me directly, @Vance Wood , as I will address you. You are correct, I'm not a Vance Wood fanboy, but I don't seek any opportunities to prove you wrong or discredit your efforts. In fact, I rarely seek you out at all. However, people do follow your work and contributions, and so when I read something inconsistent with my reasoning (from you or anyone), I question it and look for an answer that makes sense. Clearly you aren't willing to engage in a challenging conversation, so you resort to this nonsense. I need this arguement like I need a mugo pine in Alabama; you can keep both for yourself.
Vance Wood
Lord Mugo
I would engage in a conversation with you if you had ever given me the evidence that you were able and willing to have any kind of respectful conversation with me. You may or may not have noticed I never go searching out your posts and the only time I see them is when they seem to cross with my own. It is usually after some sort of acerbic comment that would raise the hackles on a dead rooster, as those that started this exchange, where you start up a conversation of sorts.
GrimLore
Bonsai Nut alumnus... we miss you
No big deal, serious I have killed a LOT of plants learning them... Once you do it is pretty damn cool
Grimmy
RickMartin
Omono
Well this just threw a monkey wrench into the fire. A couple from my club have been growing a few for 3 years and they are thriving. The club is having tour of houses by membere and theirs is on the list so when this happens i will take pics and post them.
Rick
Rick
Paradox
Imperial Masterpiece
Then it would be worth getting one locally to you and trying again. At least we would hope that it should be better acclimated to your climate instead of Michigan.
Vance Wood
Lord Mugo
I think it is important that the tree be given a year/season or two to acclimate itself before any serious work is done to it. I believe the entire kerfuffle was over why the tree did not survive a summer repotting. We live and learn.
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