Are you a Net Bonsai Wanker?

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Victrinia,

you seem to be serious about slowing down an azalea. I assume you want to have it bloom later than it normally would have. That's not big deal. We do this often. You put the azalea into a freezing house where they have moderate temperatures a bit over freezing, but too cold to grow. If you put it there for two weeks it will bloom ten days later.
The other way round. If you want it to bloom earlier you place it in a warm greenhouse and it will be as early as you want it. This means stress for the plants, of course. So don't do this every year.
 
Walter Pall said:
Victrinia,

you seem to be serious about slowing down an azalea. I assume you want to have it bloom later than it normally would have. That's not big deal. We do this often. You put the azalea into a freezing house where they have moderate temperatures a bit over freezing, but too cold to grow. If you put it there for two weeks it will bloom ten days later.
The other way round. If you want it to bloom earlier you place it in a warm greenhouse and it will be as early as you want it. This means stress for the plants, of course. So don't do this every year.
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If that option isn't available, I bet using a refrigerator set to about 37 to 40° F (3 or 4° C) with some timed blue LED lighting and an internal chamber for the tree (to protect it from drying) would work pretty well too.
 
Zenshi said:
Interesting thread, on many levels.

I am an internet marketer with degrees in marketing and e-commerce, and also a specialization in social media. This thread would make a very good case study for the results of net marketing and PR. Here are some observations from a casual onlooker:

1: Marco. Frankly, you sound like a cough medicine barker from days gone by. I can just see you standing on a soapbox shouting to the masses about Grandpa's Wonder Elixir and how it's the greatest thing the world has ever known. You are no different than any other inventor who has toiled and sweat over a product. The difference is you and your approach to the whole thing. What you haven't realized, is that people are buying you as much as they are the Ichiban. YOU are the brand identity in question here, not the product itself. This is a niche market and being a part of the community is very important, which doesn't include copping an attitude on the forums.

2: Ichiban. The tool is over-priced, period. No single tool, no matter how well designed, is ever going to replace an entire tool set. I don't care if it's made of aerospace grade titanium, diamond plated, and guaranteed for life...people aren't going to be lining up to buy single $350 tool. Multi-purpose tools are largely fad items and most realize that if they have a $350 budget, it would be a better investment to buy a set vs. a single tool. There is simply not enough value to outweigh the price point.

3: Marketing. The general approach of this campaign is, "If you don't own this product, you're a wanker." Not very smart. In the digital age of word of mouse marketing, a few clicks and negative reviews of you and your product can spread across the planet in mere minutes. It's awesome that you've created something innovative and new, and that you're excited about it. But being confrontational and condescending towards your target market is not a bright move.

4: PR. Give your product away. Find the most negative reviewer of it on this board and send them an Ichiban for free, you even pay the shipping. If you really stand behind your product, put it in the hands of someone who is vocal against it. Allow them to post an honest review, and I can almost guarantee it will be your best testimonial to date. Offer promotions and discounts for referrals. It seems that your reputation might be damaged by all of this, and a little schmoozing may go a long way to repair it.
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This is nice but you left out the #1 Reason why this product is selling and will continue to sale.
Any product be it ferts or tools that show they do what they are intended to do will always be sought by those of us that want the best for our trees....

I see no difference between this product or The Humas that Al has proven works fantastic on trees.
I remember the same discussions about using Lava straight...I have many trees which are in Pure Lava and they love it!
Irene
 
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Walter Pall said:
Victrinia,

you seem to be serious about slowing down an azalea. I assume you want to have it bloom later than it normally would have. That's not big deal. We do this often. You put the azalea into a freezing house where they have moderate temperatures a bit over freezing, but too cold to grow. If you put it there for two weeks it will bloom ten days later.
The other way round. If you want it to bloom earlier you place it in a warm greenhouse and it will be as early as you want it. This means stress for the plants, of course. So don't do this every year.
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Thank you Walter... I appreciate the advice very much.

My desire for slowing it down is because that the tree is starting its blooming VERY early... It should be blooming more at the end of this month... not trying to bloom now. Since the tree is going to show... it would be nice to have it still in bloom.

Interestingly we've had several days of really cool weather... in the mid 30s at night... and it seemed like it stalled it a bit... I've been wondering about that. Maybe the weather will be as freakish for spring as it was in winter... lol Unless you know of anyone in WA who has a freezing house. :D

Kindest regards,

Victrinia
 
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DaveG said:
If that option isn't available, I bet using a refrigerator set to about 37 to 40° F (3 or 4° C) with some timed blue LED lighting and an internal chamber for the tree (to protect it from drying) would work pretty well too.
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You are so clever.... :D But I've not the heart to risk it in an enviornment not designed for the job. :(


Many thanks though,

Victrinia
 
Victrinia Ensor said:
You are so clever.... :D But I've not the heart to risk it in an enviornment not designed for the job. :(


Many thanks though,

Victrinia
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Thanks.

Refrigerators are designed for the job, in a way. Much of what we store in them comes from plants. But I never meant for you to toss one of your prize tree in it for the first test. :p
 
I'm guessing The Tool is designed to appeal to those newly extra wealthy via Austerity measures for the masses that is so prevalent in political circles at present.

What's a guy to do if the nations wealth is so easy to redistribute to oneself,only the best now i'm the boss.

I would pay no tax as that is a function of the plebs,only Gross for me!

Not mentioned is all of these,'Bonsai Masters' asking the man questions as a priviledge of ownership,i mean,how does that work?
 
Maybe there is a use for a poor mans Maarco,questions could be answered in Sicilian style.

Such as,'Maarco,where do i buy your tool?'

Maarco answers,'Wherever you see Bonsai,my tool will be there!'

Another,'Maarco,where can i take your class in routine needle plucking?'

Maarco responds,'When i pluck the needles in my home of Sicily i will tell you right here!'

Always a favourite,'Maarco,is it true you studied the tea ceremony in Japan?'

Maarco replies,'No,i had no time for tea drinking in Japan.' he goes on to explain,'I learned to drink tea English style with buttered crumpets and conserve.'
 
Klytus said:
I'm guessing The Tool is designed to appeal to those newly extra wealthy via Austerity measures for the masses that is so prevalent in political circles at present.

What's a guy to do if the nations wealth is so easy to redistribute to oneself,only the best now i'm the boss.

I would pay no tax as that is a function of the plebs,only Gross for me!

Not mentioned is all of these,'Bonsai Masters' asking the man questions as a priviledge of ownership,i mean,how does that work?
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Only Republicans can afford one.
 
I don't know anybody on here but I think I'm catching on to something.. When Europeans want to joke or insult somebody they purposely spell the persons name that they are talking about wrong.. Marco spelled Ryan Frye(Free) and Klytus spelled Marco (Maarco).. This thread is still amusing to me.. C'mon I know you guys can get 100 pages..

Although lately it seems like everyone is chumming up again.. Ain't that sweet.. :D
 
Maarco posts a reply,'I am from Sicily,i run the Spartacu school of Bonsai and related far eastern methodologies and as such i am a poor but accessible master.'
 
I think Europeans are like Atlanteans,you may read about them or hear stories of them but you will never meet one.

As an example you may see tall tales of a migratory species who spend some of their lives in Belgium,this is where the European myth probably first took root.
 
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I've met a few Atlanteans, they were Braves fans.
 
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