Does these wierd trident leaves means the seeds are bad?

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Needed some trident seedlings for grafts in 2027. Collected these trident seeds today but noticed there were two types of leaves on the tree. Are these seeds safe to use? Will this deformation carry over to the seedlings?
 

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If they’re for root grafts it probably won’t matter at all. If they’re for branches, it would be better to grow out some whips to thread/approach graft on the tree you’re grafting so you have zero variability. Otherwise there is a chance you get weird timing and colors during fall.
 
Does anyone know why those leaves look different? I rather like the look of them!
 
I've noticed that when my trees stop growing in fall, the leaves that last came out are smaller and not well formed.

And on my sweet gum forest, I had some weird problem happen where the new leaves in mid-summer were coming out malformed and unhealthy looking. I think the buds and/or young leaves were attacked by either bugs or fungus as they emerged. They never fully grew.

Maybe it's one of those two things?
 
Tridents seem to have different shaped leaves at different stages. I assume they are juvenile and mature foliage. Older trees tend to have those spade shaped leaves with shorter points as shown in the photo. Younger trees seem to have the more usual longer lobed leaves.
I suspect that because we trim regularly, our bonsai stay as juvenile for much longer.
Seed from trees with the spade shaped leaves seems to grow as 'normal' tridents.

The unlobed leaves are also not uncommon. Not sure what that is but don't think it's any problem.
 
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