Incoming Toyo Nishiki quince

[Pitoon]

No, I kept it in morning sun, per a poor caresheet I found online. Bill V said treat it like a pine and do full sun. So hopeful for next year. Because it's in a prime sun location.

Strange? I have several in morning sun, afternoon shade and all bloomed. I know they like to bloom on older wood though.

 

[Cadillactaste]

Strange? I have several in morning sun, afternoon shade and all bloomed. I know they like to bloom on older wood though.

It was early morning sun. I know Judy sold hers...when it didn't bloom for her believe she had an exposed root quince as well. So...no idea. Maybe I pruned it to hard...at the wrong time. I wish to focus on development to be honest. Blooms are short lived. Those exposed roots are four seasons.

 

[Cadillactaste]

So the cuttings of red Toyo Nishiki are blooming. I had set them in more sunny location when in a pot. Put them in the ground last fall. Since the reason of purchasing was to use for grafting. *Rainy overcast day. Dark photo sorry.

So I put the Toyo Nishiki bonsai in the same location. Surely it should bloom next year. When the cuttings have bloomed and were there last year.

 

[Pitoon]

@Cadillactaste is your plan is to graft the red on to the Toyo nishiki?

Technically the cultivar name 'Toyo nishiki' is white, pink and red flowered, but more often we see only the white and pink flowers. I've never heard of Red Toyo nishiki, keep in mind the color and size of the leaves as well as the flower size if you intend graft.

None of my Toyo nishiki's has given any red flowers as of yet. I am curious if it's required like in azaleas that you must take cuttings from specific branches that do produce red flowers. If this is the case we will only see the white and pink flowers.

 

[Cadillactaste]

@Cadillactaste is your plan is to graft the red on to the Toyo nishiki?

Technically the cultivar name 'Toyo nishiki' is white, pink and red flowered, but more often we see only the white and pink flowers. I've never heard of Red Toyo nishiki, keep in mind the color and size of the leaves as well as the flower size if you intend graft.

None of my Toyo nishiki's has given any red flowers as of yet. I am curious if it's required like in azaleas that you must take cuttings from specific branches that do produce red flowers. If this is the case we will only see the white and pink flowers.

Brent from Evergreen Gardenworks sells cuttings from Toyo Nishiki...that throw red blooms. Thus red Toyo Nishiki cuttings for grafting.

 

[Pitoon]

Brent from Evergreen Gardenworks sells cuttings from Toyo Nishiki...that throw red blooms. Thus red Toyo Nishiki cuttings for grafting.

I figured that's where you got the red version from.

Although to me the naming convention is off. Toyo nishiki is not all red flowers, and I understand the reasoning to adding 'Red' in front.

This seems like a really interesting project to do. Can you confirm if the leaves are the same color and size? I may try this project as well.

 

[Cadillactaste]

I figured that's where you got the red version from.

Although to me the naming convention is off. Toyo nishiki is not all red flowers, and I understand the reasoning to adding 'Red' in front.

This seems like a really interesting project to do. Can you confirm if the leaves are the same color and size? I may try this project as well.

They were last year. Never doubted they were not of the same tree cultivar. This year the Toyo Nishiki bonsai needed some ironite. But the new foliage is the same. Older foliage us darkening. The one in the ground is walking later and of course their leaf size would be different. One was in a controlled greenhouse environment.

 

[penumbra]

My Toyo Nishiki has primarily pink and white flowers. It does throw an ocasional red flower here and there. I planted it 30 years ago and it is about 8-10 feet tall and 15-18 feet wide. I put photos on here last year.

 

[Cadillactaste]

My Toyo Nishiki has primarily pink and white flowers. It does throw an ocasional red flower here and there. I planted it 30 years ago and it is about 8-10 feet tall and 15-18 feet wide. I put photos on here last year.

Right, I've heard that about Toyo Nishiki. I believe it may have been Bill V's blog that said one must really consider grafting red onto it for more red. @thumblessprimate1 also encouraged me to graft. Will look for yours later.

 

[Cadillactaste]

Okay, it was found here...where they refer to Bill V's talk of grafting to Toyo Nishiki to improve color distrubution.

Winter Bonsai Brilliance | Bonsai Bark

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[Cadillactaste]

My Toyo Nishiki. Never considered it for bonsai, planted it about 30 years ago for wildlife. It is 8 to 10 feet tall and and least 15 to 18 feet across. Lots of suckers I will be digging in the late winter.View attachment 277094View attachment 277095

Was this the post you just mentioned? Have any photos of the buds opened?

 

[penumbra]

Was this the post you just mentioned? Have any photos of the buds opened?

Here it is. Just started blooming. No red flowers or banded flowers yet this year but most of the flowers are yet to open.

 

[Cadillactaste]

So pretty, thanks for sharing.

Rain stopped for a minute here.
cuttings from a Toyo Nishiki that had red ... red branch cuttings planted in ground.

 

[Pitoon]

Here it is. Just started blooming. No red flowers or banded flowers yet this year but most of the flowers are yet to open.
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That bush is a beast! I remember you posting about it a while back. Does it bear any fruit?

 

[penumbra]

That bush is a beast! I remember you posting about it a while back. Does it bear any fruit?

It has some fruit and probably more than I know about. It was primarily planted for wildlife so I don't get up in it often.

 

[vp999]

Matt Ouwinga got some red ones if you guys looking to graft.

 

[Cadillactaste]

A photo after being trimmed. I think it's time to study this in bloom and decide where the red toyo cuttings will be grafted onto.

 

[Cadillactaste]

This tree deserves being seen outside of 2D.

It's really coming along on its journey ...

Cadillactaste on Instagram: "Mmmmm, what we have here is a winter silhouette of a Toyo Nishiki Chaenomeles flowering quince...in a 10 inch Sara Rayner pot. Man, this has been fun developing. Love seeing structure being set... 🥰 I think back at the r

2 likes, 0 comments - cadillactaste on October 27, 2023: "Mmmmm, what we have here is a winter silhouette of a Toyo Nishiki Chaenomeles flowering quince......"

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[Cadillactaste]

For those who aren't into Instagram...a 2D image.

 

[Cadillactaste]

Come now...seeing this outside of 2D...is spectacular. Won't lie...it amazes me to look back at where my trees began.

Cadillactaste on Instagram: "Toyo Nishiki Chaenomeles flowering quince... in a Sara Rayner pot. Truth be told. I don't permit flowering species to bloom until the structure is set. That said... this is a three color blooming species...with red the

24 likes, 5 comments - cadillactaste on December 23, 2023: "Toyo Nishiki Chaenomeles flowering quince... in a Sara Rayner pot. Truth be told. I don't permi..."

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