Last (ever?) Mirai Tree Sale

[Wood]

That isnt what he said. Its great that youre watching though, this stuff should be shared more.

It is not what he said, but it really felt like what you were trying to say by divorcing his quote from the context of the video

I think the main issue is that most people tend to reset the tree too damn often, instead of reading into the tree and figuring out where to take it from there.

100% agree

 

[BobbyLane]

It is not what he said, but it really felt like what you were trying to say by divorcing his quote from the context of the video



100% agree

Maybe youre reading into it too much, im just highlighting a few quick snippets that resonated with me.

 

[clem]

Guess they didn't like our discussion, they removed all bid info after the auction close...

Landing page just says "sold out" and clicking into the tree details just has the market value.

Too bad, I would have liked to know if the 2nd auction was as successful as the 1st. Just curious ^^

 

[clem]

The point is that the tree has LOCAL HISTORY with notable bonsai figures. The same kind of attachment comes with more well known figures. If someone said a tree was developed by John Naka, Yujji Yoshimura, Nick Lenz, Vaughn Banting you would not blink an eye paying extra. Just because this tree’s genetic lineage may not adhere to strict parameters doesn’t mean it’s some kind of rip off. Local bonsai figures who have fostered LOCAL bonsai back when it wasn’t fashionable are worth remembering. They’ve left a legacy on that community regardless of what “outsiders” think. John Naka was one of those “local” figures to begin with after all.

I have a friend who lives in Japan and who explained to me that the entry into the list of "important bonsai masterpiece" (Kichou Bonsai) is not only based on aesthetic criteria, but also on culture (for example a species that is difficult to cultivate and branch out, and which has nevertheless reached a high aesthetic level) and history (for example, a tree that belonged to a shogun)... I suppose that the historical context, in the West, is less important than in Japan where we have been growing trees in pots for a very, very long time...

 

[shohin_branches]

I have a friend who lives in Japan and who explained to me that the entry into the list of "important bonsai masterpiece" (Kichou Bonsai) is not only based on aesthetic criteria, but also on culture (for example a species that is difficult to cultivate and branch out, and which has nevertheless reached a high aesthetic level) and history (for example, a tree that belonged to a shogun)... I suppose that the historical context, in the West, is less important than in Japan where we have been growing trees in pots for a very, very long time...

Having money also doesn't mean that tree is going to the place where it will receive the best care. If the tree is actually culturally important it would be best to do through a private sale so the seller can vet the ability of the buyer to keep it alive. Selling it in an open online auction from someone this connected make it clear that the seller is not worried about potentially losing it as a cultural object.