Magnolia stellata - thread for progress

[Clorgan]

After asking all the daft questions in another thread, I wanted to start a new thread for this project (mainly to rid the embarrassment every time I open it - is there a way to burn a thread?! )

Excited about this project - not an obvious choice for a beginner but I'm sure it'll be fun and will help me learn basics.

First picture is inspiration - video from YouTube. Next photos are progression so far. Last picture is my long term vision of where I currently see it going (providing it lives that long!) Please excuse the terrible drawing - art isn't really my thing I am going to hold off doing anything else on it for a long while and hope that it survives the work I did. Just fun to think about future plans!

I'd love to hear thoughts, particularly on what you think to the shape and my vision picture - new apex and guy wiring to make new side branch.

Thanks as always in advance for taking the time and patience to read this and help

 

[Leo in N E Illinois]

Nice project, magnolias are lovely.

 

[HorseloverFat]

After asking all the daft questions in another thread, I wanted to start a new thread for this project (mainly to rid the embarrassment every time I open it - is there a way to burn a thread?! )

Excited about this project - not an obvious choice for a beginner but I'm sure it'll be fun and will help me learn basics.

First picture is inspiration - video from YouTube. Next photos are progression so far. Last picture is my long term vision of where I currently see it going (providing it lives that long!) Please excuse the terrible drawing - art isn't really my thing I am going to hold off doing anything else on it for a long while and hope that it survives the work I did. Just fun to think about future plans!

I'd love to hear thoughts, particularly on what you think to the shape and my vision picture - new apex and guy wiring to make new side branch.

Thanks as always in advance for taking the time and patience to read this and help

This looks fun, I also enjoy magnolias.. but know precisely diddly and a half about their growth habits/tendencies nor their response to any given techniques.

Nice specimen, though.

I am interested to see what you decide to do.

 

[penumbra]

Excellent. I have half a dozen mag I am growing out now to work on.

 

[Clorgan]

Nice project, magnolias are lovely.

Yes I love them! Definitely not an obvious choice, but the guy on YouTube did a great job with his, not a stellata though. Should be fun!

 

[Clorgan]

This looks fun, I also enjoy magnolias.. but know precisely diddly and a half about their growth habits/tendencies nor their response to any given techniques.

Nice specimen, though.

I am interested to see what you decide to do.

I'm sure I'll be able to give you a little insight about their response - if it dies I'm going to say they don't respond well

Thanks - I'll keep you updated!

 

[Clorgan]

Excellent. I have half a dozen mag I am growing out now to work on.

Oh amazing! How far along are they?

 

[Wires_Guy_wires]

This looks fun, I also enjoy magnolias.. but know precisely diddly and a half about their growth habits/tendencies nor their response to any given techniques.

Nice specimen, though.

I am interested to see what you decide to do.

It's pretty simple: cut them once, regret it for two years, and try again. They're pretty fragile and break easily, the fun thing is that they can split horizontally down the trunk like no other plant I've ever seen. I mean that in the worst way possible.

As long as those fragrant and fat roots stay alive, it'll be fine though. I found magnolias are hard to kill.
Snails love the foliage unfortunately. And mice seem to have a thing for their roots.

 

[coachspinks]

After asking all the daft questions in another thread, I wanted to start a new thread for this project (mainly to rid the embarrassment every time I open it - is there a way to burn a thread?! )

Excited about this project - not an obvious choice for a beginner but I'm sure it'll be fun and will help me learn basics.

First picture is inspiration - video from YouTube. Next photos are progression so far. Last picture is my long term vision of where I currently see it going (providing it lives that long!) Please excuse the terrible drawing - art isn't really my thing I am going to hold off doing anything else on it for a long while and hope that it survives the work I did. Just fun to think about future plans!

I'd love to hear thoughts, particularly on what you think to the shape and my vision picture - new apex and guy wiring to make new side branch.

Thanks as always in advance for taking the time and patience to read this and help

Don't feel bad. Your other thread inspired me to order one. I bought it from a mail order tree farm. it was early in the season so I felt like I could go ahead do some root work, it had 2 feet of stringy roots, and put it in a training pot. I was very aggressive and It looked rough for a few weeks but it has bounced back well and is pushing a lot of new growth. They seem to be tough trees.

 

[Clorgan]

It's pretty simple: cut them once, regret it for two years, and try again. They're pretty fragile and break easily, the fun thing is that they can split horizontally down the trunk like no other plant I've ever seen. I mean that in the worst way possible.

Regret it is in cut and they die or just take a while to get back to health? Roots are still fragrant, but it's only been a day - it's a very distinctive smell! Will I know soonish whether it'll be OK, as in is it a quick or slow death? (jolly questions these!)

Will look out for the snails and mice, although our cat seems to butcher most of the poor mice around here!

 

[Clorgan]

Don't feel bad. Your other thread inspired me to order one. I bought it from a mail order tree farm. it was early in the season so I felt like I could go ahead do some root work, it had 2 feet of stringy roots, and put it in a training pot. I was very aggressive and It looked rough for a few weeks but it has bounced back well and is pushing a lot of new growth. They seem to be tough trees.

Ah thanks for this!

I hope you are talking about magnolia, as this would be a good sign that mine will be alright haha! Glad yours has bounced back got any photos? I'd love to see!

 

[coachspinks]

Ah thanks for this!

I hope you are talking about magnolia, as this would be a good sign that mine will be alright haha! Glad yours has bounced back got any photos? I'd love to see!

Yes, magnolia. I will try to get some up later this evening.

 

[Clorgan]

Yes, magnolia. I will try to get some up later this evening.

Oh amazing! Reapply happy to hear it's doing well, and thanks you've definitely made me feel better

 

[Clorgan]

Magnolia Stellata

Almost Everything You Wanted to Know About Growing Bonsai in the Heart of Dixie, And Maybe Some That You Didn't!

heartofdixiebonsai.com

Just found this - I think there's hope and a pretty interesting read and pretty cool trunk on it! Funny how people's experiences can be so different - one person's tree survives a butchering whilst another's is much more fickle. Interesting stuff!

 

[Wires_Guy_wires]

Regret it is in cut and they die or just take a while to get back to health? Roots are still fragrant, but it's only been a day - it's a very distinctive smell! Will I know soonish whether it'll be OK, as in is it a quick or slow death? (jolly questions these!)

Will look out for the snails and mice, although our cat seems to butcher most of the poor mice around here!

They don't die easily. But recovery can be slow and they'll not flower for at least a year if you cut them down hard. Health wise I'd watch out for die back and rot after making a cut.
I haven't killed one, but I was close. The decline was slow, so plenty of time to correct it.

 

[Clorgan]

They don't die easily. But recovery can be slow and they'll not flower for at least a year if you cut them down hard. Health wise I'd watch out for die back and rot after making a cut.
I haven't killed one, but I was close. The decline was slow, so plenty of time to correct it.

Great stuff to know - thanks very much!

 

[Clorgan]

So I ignored this one for a while... It's now very leafy! Should I keep leaving it be?

 

[cmeg1]

I always advise this,but try a 5:2 ratio of fulvic acid powder/kelp powder or 1/8tsp fulvic -1/16tsp kelp.
Add a little yucca powder perbpackage instructions.
Is capable of making awesome backbudding on alot of species.In fact only it has not for me is hawthorn.......Do magnolia backbud?
Cut nitrogen a bit and try WEEKLY FOLIAR FEEDS ONLY......kelp will birn leaves more than once a week.
Would be intersting....has worked phoenominally for me!!!!
Backbuds on 1” branches and 1” tall plants.....very reliable for me......though not all species.

 

[cmeg1]

Cytokinins are transported from kelp into plants in like 4 hrs by means of hitching a ride from the low molecular weight fulvic acid.
Cytokinins actually halt the auxin signal in the meristem of your plant and trigger backbuds( a genetic responce of trees during storm or branch break for controled survival and health maintanace).
Definately a sciance to it........crazy good results on alot of species.

 

[cmeg1]

Also all this without loosing your killer meristem to make thickness!!!! !!!!!!!!!