I’ve read that before. If that is the case, how can vendors sell variety specific maple seeds?Regardless of the parent cultivar, it’s seeds can only be named seedling Acer palmatum. Cultivars are propagated by grafts and cuttings, which is of no provenance if the stock cultivar is unknown. Nice looking tree though.
They can sell the seeds with the parent cultivar in the description... it just doesn't mean the seedlings will be the same. Kinda like selling the colt from a successful race-horse. There is a chance the colt will inherit many of the traits of the parent... but maybe it will just be a farm horse. Regardless it will never be genetically identical.I’ve read that before. If that is the case, how can vendors sell variety specific maple seeds?
And they almost never are. Percentages are very low of plants from seed that look like their mother. You can get some great seedlings, but technically they are just Acer palmatum as Bonsai Nut has said.They can sell the seeds with the parent cultivar in the description... it just doesn't mean the seedlings will be the same.
Yes. Seeds are seeds. They will be more or less genetically different from the parent tree(s). Some might look similar... but that is not the same thing as being the same.Is that still the case if you have seeds from an air layered JM of a specific cultivar?
If it is from a seed it is Acer palmatum technically, but you can get anything. This is where cultivars come from.Is that still the case if you have seeds from an air layered JM of a specific cultivar?
Reputable vendors don't label their seeds with a cultivar name. There are a lot of fraudsters on online retail platforms that permit third parties to sell through the platform. Those fraudsters sell ordinary Acer palmatum seeds as named cultivar seeds or as "bonsai seeds" or as seeds for some sort of "rare" variant of the plant with absurdly colored foliage that doesn't actually exist and they put a photoshopped picture in the listing to sell to unsuspecting folks who don't know enough about the plant to know that they're effectively being sold magic beans like in the Jack and the Beanstalk fairytale. I think these disreputable vendors do it so they can charge more than people would otherwise pay if they knew that the seeds were just ordinary Acer palmatum seeds. They're counting on the reality that most newbie gardeners will just blame themselves if the seeds fail to germinate and, if the seeds germinate and produce a plant that looks nothing like what was advertised, most people still won't bother with the hassle of a doing a product return for an item under $10. Here's an example of a disreputable third party vendor selling "Bonsai Maple Tree Seeds" and using a stolen photo of one of Walter Pall's bonsai trees that they've photoshopped to have absurd purple foliage that doesn't exist in nature and certainly doesn't exist on Walter's tree.I’ve read that before. If that is the case, how can vendors sell variety specific maple seeds?
Fortunately, I didn’t fall victim to a purple bonsai tree seed. Although I have chosen to roll the dice for $3.50. Given the law of probabilities, I am almost guaranteed an Acer Palmatum. Live an learn…Reputable vendors don't label their seeds with a cultivar name. There are a lot of fraudsters on online retail platforms that permit third parties to sell through the platform. Those fraudsters sell ordinary Acer palmatum seeds as named cultivar seeds or as "bonsai seeds" or as seeds for some sort of "rare" variant of the plant with absurdly colored foliage that doesn't actually exist and they put a photoshopped picture in the listing to sell to unsuspecting folks who don't know enough about the plant to know that they're effectively being sold magic beans like in the Jack and the Beanstalk fairytale. I think these disreputable vendors do it so they can charge more than people would otherwise pay if they knew that the seeds were just ordinary Acer palmatum seeds. They're counting on the reality that most newbie gardeners will just blame themselves if the seeds fail to germinate and, if the seeds germinate and produce a plant that looks nothing like what was advertised, most people still won't bother with the hassle of a doing a product return for an item under $10. Here's an example of a disreputable third party vendor selling "Bonsai Maple Tree Seeds" and using a stolen photo of one of Walter Pall's bonsai trees that they've photoshopped to have absurd purple foliage that doesn't exist in nature and certainly doesn't exist on Walter's tree.
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Ive seen scams a lot worse than thatReputable vendors don't label their seeds with a cultivar name. There are a lot of fraudsters on online retail platforms that permit third parties to sell through the platform. Those fraudsters sell ordinary Acer palmatum seeds as named cultivar seeds or as "bonsai seeds" or as seeds for some sort of "rare" variant of the plant with absurdly colored foliage that doesn't actually exist and they put a photoshopped picture in the listing to sell to unsuspecting folks who don't know enough about the plant to know that they're effectively being sold magic beans like in the Jack and the Beanstalk fairytale. I think these disreputable vendors do it so they can charge more than people would otherwise pay if they knew that the seeds were just ordinary Acer palmatum seeds. They're counting on the reality that most newbie gardeners will just blame themselves if the seeds fail to germinate and, if the seeds germinate and produce a plant that looks nothing like what was advertised, most people still won't bother with the hassle of a doing a product return for an item under $10. Here's an example of a disreputable third party vendor selling "Bonsai Maple Tree Seeds" and using a stolen photo of one of Walter Pall's bonsai trees that they've photoshopped to have absurd purple foliage that doesn't exist in nature and certainly doesn't exist on Walter's tree.
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