Attila Soos
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I may have bought from the old lot, now that I think of it, it was about two years ago when I got these. I haven't noticed anything funny so far, but now that you mentioned this, I should take a better look at them.
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I may have bought from the old lot, now that I think of it, it was about two years ago when I got these. I haven't noticed anything funny so far, but now that you mentioned this, I should take a better look at them.
Smoke
Ignore-Amus
I second that since my wife has been in the publising business for 12 years. This is not the norm but isolated incidences.
Attila Soos
Omono
Al,
You just made me go out and check those Chinese pots, since you got me worried. They still look as good as new, after all the watering for over a season. So they may be from a different lot than yours.
Also, the color is different from the one on your picture.
You just made me go out and check those Chinese pots, since you got me worried. They still look as good as new, after all the watering for over a season. So they may be from a different lot than yours.
Also, the color is different from the one on your picture.
Smoke
Ignore-Amus
Jim's import pots have been getting better each year. I feel what he has today is by far a very good pot for the money. I bought a glazed pot from Jim at last years convention for my huge myrtle tree and Jim and I went into the exhibit room with the pot just to make sure it would fit. The big green pot below is from Jim as of 2008. His pots today are even a step up from this which is really good.
Jim was also a vendor at our Toko-Kazari this year and he had some new pots he just brough in. I wanted two of them but never got the chance to go back and buy them. I was way too busy with chores to ever get back to the vendor area. Jim has come a long ways with the import pots..but so has the price too. The one I bought last year was well over 160.00 dollars, very nice price for what I got but not 30.00 either. Which was what I paid three years ago. The same pot from Bruce Haseyesu would be about $600.00.
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Klytus
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Kong was Banned?
It's often the way,the shining stars of online communities exit and the forum dies as only useless tossers remain.
It's often the way,the shining stars of online communities exit and the forum dies as only useless tossers remain.
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I speak from actual experience myself with publishers of bonsai books, not speculation at all, perhaps we both have had differing experiences in the same industry.
However, pay to play, if you want, that is always an option, but research well, if you're going to pay, then you are no longer limited to bonsai publishers.
Will
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Attila Soos
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In today's day and age, with the prevalence of cheap desktop publishing sofwtwares, it is best that the author finishes the whole book by himself, in electronic form. You can take the pictures, design the outlay of the page, edit yourself, basically finish the whole book on computer.
Then, you can pay a young design student for some criticism and suggestions as to how improve the looks of your book.
Once this is done, all you need is to go to Kinko's and print the thing on high quality paper(actually, you can find cheaper and better places, where you get volume discounts). Then have someone bind it into a good looking book, and you are done.
You don't need to print a 1000 copies, just start with 100. For a few thousand dollars, you got 100 books finished and ready to be shipped to the buyer. If the book turns out to be a hit, you can take it to the next level and work out all kinds of deals with distributors. If not, at least you can recover part of your costs, and leave it at that.
It's similar to being a band and producing an album. In the old days, it would cost a fortune to create an album, or a CD, you had to go to a recording studio and do some serious begging. Today you can do it in your garage, with all the technology available at reasonable price. That's why the recording industry is in shables these days, with everybody publishing on the Internet.
Then, you can pay a young design student for some criticism and suggestions as to how improve the looks of your book.
Once this is done, all you need is to go to Kinko's and print the thing on high quality paper(actually, you can find cheaper and better places, where you get volume discounts). Then have someone bind it into a good looking book, and you are done.
You don't need to print a 1000 copies, just start with 100. For a few thousand dollars, you got 100 books finished and ready to be shipped to the buyer. If the book turns out to be a hit, you can take it to the next level and work out all kinds of deals with distributors. If not, at least you can recover part of your costs, and leave it at that.
It's similar to being a band and producing an album. In the old days, it would cost a fortune to create an album, or a CD, you had to go to a recording studio and do some serious begging. Today you can do it in your garage, with all the technology available at reasonable price. That's why the recording industry is in shables these days, with everybody publishing on the Internet.
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This is all true, but all you have is a collection of what you think is good, nice option if you have a need of shelf fillers or fire starter material, but this falls short of actually being published.
I have researched the options for publishing in bonsai to death, I have talked to publishers, I have submitted manuscripts, and I have been published in mags as well as offered a deal on a book. I do speak from personal experience here.
For those interested, pick up a "Writer's Market" for this year and you will see thousands of publishers willing to pay for quality articles and/or books. I strongly suggest retaining an agent before agreeing to anything, yes a literary agent does far more good than harm and can open doors the average writer can not.
A real publisher does not require payment by the author, they accept the risk based on the work submitted and they pay the writer based on a flat rate (most articles) or a percentage of sales (most books). They also do all the work in promoting and selling the book, an invaluable service.
That being said, if you feel you must go with a vanity press for whatever reason, go with a "print on demand" press. The respectable ones will only print books when they are sold, they will promote for you and even get the book on Amazon.com. It'll cost you a couple grand (cheaper than kinkos with far more value), but it is a good option considering the limited number of publishers that will actually consider niche markets such as bonsai. You can also recoup the original investment if the sales warrant it. All in all, "print on demand" is the best option for those wishing to use a vanity press.
I have the names and contact info for the best out there if anyone wishes to know, pm me.
Will
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I worked (in IT) for a magazine printing company for a number of years and never could figure out how anyone made any money. Lots of talk about advertising, mostly. Books? Even more foreign a concept for a money making venture to me. But, please keep writing/printing/publishing them! I <3 bonsai books. 
I've known a few people to use blurb.com and have purchased from them, to Will's print on demand option. Just one option among many, I'm sure.
I've known a few people to use blurb.com and have purchased from them, to Will's print on demand option. Just one option among many, I'm sure.
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Attila Soos
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That's right.
At the end, it all depends on how good your work is. If you happen to write a gem of a book, then it will sell for hundreds of dollars on E-Bay, due to it's limited release, and people will do anything to get it.
Then you will have no problem getting a "real" publisher and properly market it (Look at the story of Harry Potter: eight publishers rejected it before one took pity on J.K. Rowling. Today she is the first and only billionnaire author)
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noissee
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Klytus, I know your secret. It all adds up.
Anonymous User
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Notice she did not self publish..... even after many rejections, there is a lesson here.....
Since we are talking about this, can you name me one self published book that made any money in the last decade?
Another thing to look for when getting a publisher, true or vanity alike, is your rights. Quality print on demand publishers only hold rights for a limited time, leaving you open if a real publisher sees your book and decisdes they want to run it. This is again, where a literary agent comes in handy.
Attila Soos
Omono
I have no idea, wouldn't know even if there was any.
Nothing wrong with the publishers and agents, as long as they leave some money on the table for you
Klytus
Omono
You can't buy publicity like this.
Maybe you wouldn't want to.
Maybe you wouldn't want to.
Anonymous User
Banned
"This tool combines the genius of Italian design with the quality of Japanese craftsmanship. Marco Invernizzi, renowned Italian bonsai artist, joined forces with the Japanese Masakuni Tools Corporation to create the most innovative bonsai tool in decades. The clippers reflect years of Marco’s thinking about how to make a better bonsai scissors and the metal working know how of Masakuni." - Robert Kempinski ( http://blogs.knowledgeofbonsai.org/rob_kempinski/ )
Bill S
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Nobody worth listening too had anything bad to say about the tool from the premier tool making company in our hobby, I don't think the marketers at Masakuni are quaking in thier boots over this thread as of yet.
Going back a whole bunch of posts says it all, reread Bill V post. And again when it makes sense buying the best tool you can saves you time, effort, and aggrevation in the long run, to a pro this also means money. Ask a pro how much he has tied up in tools.
Money talks BS walks so the old saying goes, and they are making a bunch of them so someone finds them worthy of buying. Sitting here for all this cyber space waste is kind of silly, bashing something you find overpriced, something you wouldn't intend to buy. I will go a step further and say it would be kind of silly for most of us to buy this tool, for the amount of use it would get, unless you have disposable income to be silly with.
Anonymous User
Banned
So, Valavanis and Kempinski are not worth listening to? Interesting opinion.
Using this logic, there is no need to buy quality pots, stands, or any tool above a pair of garden pruners.
Will
Klytus
Omono
Can you send them back for a regrind?
It may be Spyderco or some other US manufacturer of knives who allow for free regrinding,as long as you didn't use it as a pry-bar.
It may be Spyderco or some other US manufacturer of knives who allow for free regrinding,as long as you didn't use it as a pry-bar.
Hey kong, your a sneaky little devil, show me a tree that's not a tropical. You know more about the US than I do and I live here...............
keep it green,
Harry
