New to the world of bonsai! First azalea

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Don't rule out rhododendron fastigiatum. It like TX Ebony, is knees and ankles smaller than all of its kin.
 

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Its not quite like clubbing baby seal, but not that far from it. You have not listed where you are growing. So a cold house of some kind is probably worth looking forward to. Yes, northern hearty azalea can survive -10F, but they will be a lot happier stored at 32F.

Not this spring, but next spring when you repot, comb out the surface roots and thinly recover them. This will encourage their thickening.

I updated my location in central PA, specifically zone 6a apparently. Maybe I'll put it in a large pot and grow it as suggested. I do worry it's a bit too cold outside for it.
 

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I do worry it's a bit too cold outside for it.

Don't worry with that, azalea have to be outside and I'm sure it's already nice and warm where you live (at least nicer and warmer than here :mad:).
 

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I updated my location in central PA, specifically zone 6a apparently. Maybe I'll put it in a large pot and grow it as suggested. I do worry it's a bit too cold outside for it.
First rule of bonsai, putting them in a pot doesn't make them houseplants. The majority of the species used for bonsai (that aren't tropical species) actually REQUIRE cold to stay healthy
 

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First rule of bonsai, putting them in a pot doesn't make them houseplants. The majority of the species used for bonsai (that aren't tropical species) actually REQUIRE cold to stay healthy

I know a lot of bonsai need dormancy periods hence putting them outside. We have had an incredible mild winter this year(60degree on Christmass!) but the year previous in central PA we got down into -30 most of the winter.
So as a rule of thumb for azaleas once it drops below -10 might be time to bring it in to a cold room?
 

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I know a lot of bonsai need dormancy periods hence putting them outside. We have had an incredible mild winter this year(60degree on Christmass!) but the year previous in central PA we got down into -30 most of the winter.
So as a rule of thumb for azaleas once it drops below -10 might be time to bring it in to a cold room?
I don't know where in Penn. it stays at minus 30 F for most of the winter, If I were you, I'd move. ;-)
 

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Yeah, I have seemed to get that point. I may stop at my local nursery and see what I can find. And maybe keep this one as a house plant. But I'm determined to start an azalea bonsai!

Get a decent size pot, between one and two gallons. Carefully slip pot it into it not disturbing the roots. Use a rich Premium topsoil mixed 50/50 with coarse sand(Sakrete all purpose or similar). It is not a house plant - outside in filtered sun ALWAYS. Do all that sooner rather then later as we are very close to not seeing anymore frost. That's what will work where we live - enjoy!

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I don't know where in Penn. it stays at minus 30 F for most of the winter, If I were you, I'd move. ;-)

Pretty certain he meant 30F as it was mild like this past Winter. It has more then likely never been -30 at Penn State and if it was it was a short record like an overnight. I drive there on occasion, Agri Center, Natures Way and Camp nearby. Actually camp in the Winter as it is pretty mild.

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Oh believe me, once I've done with college here in Penn State, I will be.

Just one more year...
I kind of meant that those kinds of sustained low temps are mostly native to the arctic. I doubt most of the winter in your was below zero Fahrenheit. It's not that cold in February in Nome Alaska. USDA growing zone map show your climate is the same zone as mine is here in Va.--7a.
http://planthardiness.ars.usda.gov/PHZMWeb/#
I am able to keep many species of trees outside all year by protecting their roots in the winter. Those species include satsuki azalea.
 

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I am able to keep many species of trees outside all year by protecting their roots in the winter. Those species include satsuki azalea.

Yes he is in a decent climate for outdoor storage, actually a bit warmer then my place. The record coldest month there recorded so far was 20F and as Winters go not bad in our parts. Our place has never been that cold but I am close enough to frequent that area. Thanks for the reminder - me and the Wife are going near there Saturday for a few day rest in the Pocono Mountains, going to have to see how close it is to Natures Way, perhaps a day outing :p

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Pretty certain he meant 30F as it was mild like this past Winter. It has more then likely never been -30 at Penn State and if it was it was a short record like an overnight. I drive there on occasion, Agri Center, Natures Way and Camp nearby. Actually camp in the Winter as it is pretty mild.

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That was an error on my part, -30 f no, we would dip into the low -5 to -10 in January/February last year. But had some pretty bad winds, our real feel was brutal, it did end up killing three of our pines.image.png

Edit: I don't know why I felt like I was coming off rude, I'm sorry if it seemed that way! It's just if I really get into bonsai then I'd really like to keep my trees alive.
 

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But had some pretty bad winds, our real feel was brutal, it did end up killing three of our pines.

I live a couple hours away towards the Shore so it is a bit milder BUT those winds are what hurts us all when it gets frigid. Next Fall PM me far some inexpensive and smart ways to wind protect your outdoor potted stuff and you will be amazed at the difference. I didn't think you came off rude, just so you know.

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That was an error on my part, -30 f no, we would dip into the low -5 to -10 in January/February last year. But had some pretty bad winds, our real feel was brutal, it did end up killing three of our pines.View attachment 101186

Edit: I don't know why I felt like I was coming off rude, I'm sorry if it seemed that way! It's just if I really get into bonsai then I'd really like to keep my trees alive.

Don't worry this forum is full of Nuts that's why we love it! :)

For the 'not killing trees' I understand the feeling but you'll have to learn, if you really get into bonsai, that you will.
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For the 'not killing trees' I understand the feeling but you'll have to learn, if you really get into bonsai, that you will.
:)

I figured as much! I've killed my share of plants and even a cacti or two.

Other than an azalea what would be a good beginner tree to bonsai?
 
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