To our friends in the UK...

It would take pages of discussion and typing to really get into this topic and I don't thing anyone really wants or has the time to do that here ;) but the above two things from your post are two things which I did want to say a few words on. The question of "do we really care"...Yes people do really care, but in life you can't stop your life and mourn continuously for everything that happens in the world. The human race is programed to carry on, to move forward and to overcome, as well as to simply live OUR own lives. That's the key right there IMO, we live OUR lives and the things that are in our lives. If I were to tell you something bad that happened in my life I'm sure you would care, but truth is what happened in my life honestly does not fully impact your life so you do care, but you will continue on with your own life because if you really sat and mourned for every bad thing that happened in everyone's lives then your life would be useless to live. Because it would be in a constant state of depression and mourning. So yes IMO people can care and can express true sorrow for those effected, and yet still continue on with their own lives.

Far as are we in a position to condemn/judge them? Yes we are. It does not matter the motives nor the reasons behind the action when the action is a deliberate act to kill innocent young people whom are not in anyway involved with politics/military or any sort of conflict. When a Mom & Dad drop their child off at a concert and then some sick sorry excuse for life decides to kill that child then yes I will judge them and rightfully so if you ask me.

That's my .02 for what its worth. I honestly don't care much for getting into these sort of discussions online because I find them rather futile to discuss these things with strangers (no malice meant there by any means ;) ) but those two things in your post were two things I did want to reply to quickly.
But here you are------
 
I just want to say by no means am I condoning their actions. Killing people who with no direct involvement in the conflict is a fucked up thing. It is wrong, no question. It may not be possible to reason with people with such a mentality.

The issue is less of stopping the problem at hand but more of preventing new ones. What's the point of curbing terrorism through brute force methods only to create new ones in the next generation?

@Steve C You're right on those points but perhaps I should clarify more. Of course you can't mourn and stop your life for everything that happens. It wouldn't be possible and frankly, as you said, I'm not going to care for most of them. But to say you can judge and condemn anyone without so much of a thought on who they are and why they did this isn't quite right either.

My intention wasn't to say you can't judge others. If someone kills your child you have every right to. But maybe it's not as shallow and straightforward as someone killing for the sake of killing.

I think a part of having empathy is to look at others as a fellow human. Perhaps it'd be worth your effort in your busy lives to give it some thought--why did he or she do this.

Now I'm not some idealistic shit calling for hand holding and singing kumbahya with a killer. But as long as we judge them at face value we’ll never be rid of events like this. But I suppose as long as it doesn't happen to you, it's not your problem.
 
I just want to say by no means am I condoning their actions. Killing people who with no direct involvement in the conflict is a fucked up thing. It is wrong, no question. It may not be possible to reason with people with such a mentality.

The issue is less of stopping the problem at hand but more of preventing new ones. What's the point of curbing terrorism through brute force methods only to create new ones in the next generation?

@Steve C You're right on those points but perhaps I should clarify more. Of course you can't mourn and stop your life for everything that happens. It wouldn't be possible and frankly, as you said, I'm not going to care for most of them. But to say you can judge and condemn anyone without so much of a thought on who they are and why they did this isn't quite right either.

My intention wasn't to say you can't judge others. If someone kills your child you have every right to. But maybe it's not as shallow and straightforward as someone killing for the sake of killing.

I think a part of having empathy is to look at others as a fellow human. Perhaps it'd be worth your effort in your busy lives to give it some thought--why did he or she do this.

Now I'm not some idealistic shit calling for hand holding and singing kumbahya with a killer. But as long as we judge them at face value we’ll never be rid of events like this. But I suppose as long as it doesn't happen to you, it's not your problem.
If we follow your philosophy we are all doomed to have these animals crawl all over us, smother out our culture and murder us if we don't conform. If you can find a better way as I said earlier I'm listening.
 
If we follow your philosophy we are all doomed to have these animals crawl all over us, smother out our culture and murder us if we don't conform. If you can find a better way as I said earlier I'm listening.
If that's what you believe Vance so be it. Who's to say my opinion is any better than yours.

I'm not going to force my views down anyone's throat but I'd like to believe they were made with a reasonable amount consideration and thought.
 
If that's what you believe Vance so be it. Who's to say my opinion is any better than yours.

I'm not going to force my views down anyone's throat but I'd like to believe they were made with a reasonable amount consideration and thought.
History, past current and what they have said they want to do. Sharia law says that anyone who will not convert must be killed. Not all Muslims believe the entire letter of Sharia but you wont find one that will admit it. Do you know why? If they do they are considered apostate and they should be killed the same as us.

You kind of remind me of the naturist that went to Alaska and chummed up to a bunch of grizzly Bears. He documented everything on film and every thing up to the moment-----Then one day one came along that was not familiar with him and ate him. You cannot be nice to those who want to kill you or view you as a food source. I did not make this stuff up bleumeon, it is the fact of what we are dealing with, It is as it was when I was in Viet Nam, if you don't kill the enemy he will kill you.

The sad thing here is that this enemy thinks he has a mandate from God to kill you, it's not political it's religious. He believes that he will be rewarded for killing you and your children. You had better come to grasp with this fact.
 
@Steve C ...I found your comment amusing...sorry. I'm waiting on school to let out. I didn't bother to count your words when I know there are programs to do so. But short...I must have missed the one that was short. 371 words short...sorry I found it a tad amusing. Again killing time.
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Good Lord people I did not know that we had to be so technical with EVERYTHING we say to the point of people counting the amount of words you use. My point simply was I don't usually bother getting into big long page after page discussions over things with people online because it seems to do nothing but waste time. I simply replied to bleumeon's reply as short as I could because a couple things he said I had some strong feelings about. I see now I should have just avoided this short of crap all together like I knew I should, which I will now do with any topics like this on this site. Not going to waste anymore time with this or any threads such as this. Carry on folks.
 
History, past current and what they have said they want to do. Sharia law says that anyone who will not convert must be killed. Not all Muslims believe the entire letter of Sharia but you wont find one that will admit it. Do you know why? If they do they are considered apostate and they should be killed the same as us.

You kind of remind me of the naturist that went to Alaska and chummed up to a bunch of grizzly Bears. He documented everything on film and every thing up to the moment-----Then one day one came along that was not familiar with him and ate him. You cannot be nice to those who want to kill you or view you as a food source. I did not make this stuff up bleumeon, it is the fact of what we are dealing with, It is as it was when I was in Viet Nam, if you don't kill the enemy he will kill you.

The sad thing here is that this enemy thinks he has a mandate from God to kill you, it's not political it's religious. He believes that he will be rewarded for killing you and your children. You had better come to grasp with this fact.
I don't think you got my point Vance, but that's fine. I'm not going to argue pointlessly with you on the internet.

I've seen enough of those threads on bnut. I hope some of what I said made sense to others. If not just see me as the naturist who died with the grizzlys.
 
I just want to say by no means am I condoning their actions. Killing people who with no direct involvement in the conflict is a fucked up thing. It is wrong, no question. It may not be possible to reason with people with such a mentality.

The issue is less of stopping the problem at hand but more of preventing new ones. What's the point of curbing terrorism through brute force methods only to create new ones in the next generation?

@Steve C You're right on those points but perhaps I should clarify more. Of course you can't mourn and stop your life for everything that happens. It wouldn't be possible and frankly, as you said, I'm not going to care for most of them. But to say you can judge and condemn anyone without so much of a thought on who they are and why they did this isn't quite right either.

My intention wasn't to say you can't judge others. If someone kills your child you have every right to. But maybe it's not as shallow and straightforward as someone killing for the sake of killing.

I think a part of having empathy is to look at others as a fellow human. Perhaps it'd be worth your effort in your busy lives to give it some thought--why did he or she do this.

Now I'm not some idealistic shit calling for hand holding and singing kumbahya with a killer. But as long as we judge them at face value we’ll never be rid of events like this. But I suppose as long as it doesn't happen to you, it's not your problem.
This is the only thing substantive you wrote: I think a part of having empathy is to look at others as a fellow human. Perhaps it'd be worth your effort in your busy lives to give it some thought--why did he or she do this. In your way of thinking why do you think he or she did this? First of all it is now known that this individual was a guy and ISIS has claimed responsibility for the incident. so---- I think part of understanding anything is in understanding the truth of the issue. What now are your thoughts in view of your superior reasoning skills?
 
Good Lord people I did not know that we had to be so technical with EVERYTHING we say to the point of people counting the amount of words you use. My point simply was I don't usually bother getting into big long page after page discussions over things with people online because it seems to do nothing but waste time. I simply replied to bleumeon's reply as short as I could because a couple things he said I had some strong feelings about. I see now I should have just avoided this short of crap all together like I knew I should, which I will now do with any topics like this on this site. Not going to waste anymore time with this or any threads such as this. Carry on folks.
@Steve C ...I tried to explain I was bored and was amusing myself. No offense...just tired and bored. And when I get tired...I tend to get playfully ornery. Sorry to offend. I don't even read the posts. I know how it effects me of the topic of subject matter...each one is allowed their own thoughts. So I said my two cents and moved on. That is kind of my new motto when not relating to Bonsai...not let ones opinions to eat my lunch. Life is to short....just as I value my opinion the other values theirs. If it correlates with mine...okay...if not, I'm not jumping into it.

Have a great day...enjoy your lunch...passing it back to you since I seemed to have stolen yours. Sorry man...no hard feelings. Peace out!
 
Trump Duexe!

People get killed over Cellphones.
$300.

What do you think this publicity is worth to Ariana Grandes check writer?
Into Millions.
Why not them?

Trillions and Trillions is what War and Oil and U.S. interest is worth....

And you believe in ISIS !

Wake up!

USIS!

You think anyone here knows what Money is, and does?

You think a $50,000 bonsai is something?

Lol!

You think PAID SLAVES....

Yes each and every one of you....

You think your life is worth not ending for the sick ambitions of the supreme greedy?

Lol!

I believe good souls come back.

Go ahead and take me!

I'll be an eagle!

Let these rich fux continue to control you xonxiense....

Or put your hatred and MISLEADEDNESS down....

Put your Guns down....

There are No Fucking exceptions to....

Though shalt Not kill.


Keep yourselves free and return as a Bristlexone Pine.

Open your heart...

see what is REAL!

And find YOUR PEACE.

It doesn't exist on the other side of these thoughts.

It doesn't exist when they make you a killer.

It doesn't exist in fear.

Peace in Love only.

Resurrection after complete understanding.

Anti brainwash campaign 2017 before this thread gets locked!

Look!

Sorce


 
... ...I see now I should have just avoided this short of crap all together like I knew I should, which I will now do with any topics like this on this site. Not going to waste anymore time with this or any threads such as this. Carry on folks.
I also see that it would be better for me not to participate... waste of time...
BUT truth is there and truth has to be said!
Killing is killing either by USA bombs in Balkan peninsula or by Muslims cleavers! The victims are innocent people!
Killing is killing either by USA napalms in Vietnam or by Muslims suicide attacks! The victims are innocent people!

And talking about poverty as the incubator of terrorism, let's not hide the head in the sand like the ostrich. We are not talking about physical poverty but for IMPOSED poverty!
Is it by mere chance that African countries full of oil and underground wealth are suffering the darkest face of extreme poverty?

And like StoneCloud said above
... ...I won't stop living my life due to fear, and will never let anyone instill fear in me. Fuck that!

End of story for me.
 
In view of the recent huge suicide bomb exploded at Kabul, Afghanistan - similarly dramatic to the events at Manchester - I am wondering....
Does this deserves a thread titled : To the innocent people of Kabul?
As I said above, Killing Is Killing. No matter what nationality and religion the victims are. Victims are innocent people!
 
Does this deserves a thread titled : To the innocent people of Kabul?

There should be one Peace thread for them all.

I was at my son's h.S. graduation the other day...and I was thinking about terrorism...not in fear, but preparation....

Anyway....

I was thinking about starting a Peace and Love attack!

Random acts of violence should be countered with random acts of peace and Unity!

How bout the 2 dudes stabbed to death in Portland for defending a Muslim women?

Go Team!
Keep that spot in Heaven warm for me!


Sorce
 
F' your couch!!!!:D:D:D:D:D:D

Eddie ...man, Rick needs help....
Charlie .....ya' we just helped. We wooped his ass!!:D:D:D:D:D
 
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